May 06, 2012
The ducks have been pretty scarce lately, and now we see why. They've been off in the weeds, making babies.
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Posted by: Wonderduck at May 06, 2012 08:58 AM (6CHh4)
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Posted by: Siergen at May 06, 2012 04:03 PM (3/gGt)
May 05, 2012
Here's someone asking what a "carriage return" is.
I learned to type on a manual typewriter. Summer school between 6th and 7th grade. And if you want to know it, that was the single most valuable course I took in all my years of schooling.
And part of learning it was using the carriage return. And now there are people who don't even know what they are... sob, I'm getting old...
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But yes, a touch-typing class in high school was one of the most valuable classes I had there. Although spending countless hours on BBS's and later on a text-based MUCK really refined my skills and speed.
(I still need to break the habit of backspacing multiple words out of existence to fix a typo rather than using the mouse).
Posted by: Mauser at May 05, 2012 12:48 PM (cZPoz)
Even in the earliest ASCII iteration, though, a carriage return was kept separate from a line feed, and with the various text editors using CR, LF, CR/LF, and LF/CR to represent different things almost at random, I guess questions about it were inevitable.
Just be glad you can provide that knowledge to the next generation. Otherwise we might get ubiquitous word processors that use VT to mark paragraphs.
Posted by: Tatterdemalian at May 05, 2012 01:04 PM (4njWT)
...but I learned on an IBM Selectric ("the electric typewriter with the little type ball" for those born after 1990) rather than a full-manual. But I had used full-manual typewriters before that, so I knew what "return" was doing.
Posted by: atomic_fungus at May 05, 2012 02:15 PM (vq4t5)
Back in my school days, I had to take typing on electric typewriters. Before that, I had a manual typewriter and later an electric typewriter, and had to replace typewriter ribbon. The latter was drafted for several years to do my reports, even after I got a PC, because the serial port on the hand-me-down PC did not work (Thus no printers - and back in those days, we used serial ports and not USB for connecting the printer to the computer.).
Last month, after I posted about the Kickstarter campaign for Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun Returns CRPGs on the Fandom Post, I had someone ask what a CRPG (Computer Role Playing Game) was. Sob...
C.T.
Posted by: cxt217 at May 05, 2012 03:24 PM (QzVZ+)
It was also the only course I took that would have been of any significant use to me in life after high school (computer programmer, then writer).
Figures.
I still hunt and peck (at about 40wpm, though).
Posted by: Toren at May 05, 2012 04:32 PM (tcSL4)
That was my last year at that school; my parents pulled me out and sent me to private school (at great expense) afterwards.
Posted by: ubu at May 05, 2012 04:52 PM (GfCSm)
I don't remember what grade I got in it, though I'm fairly sure it wasn't a good one. To this day, I type in a unique, Wonderduck-centric style that typing teachers would loathe. Still effective, though: 80wpm last time I was tested.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 05, 2012 05:02 PM (6CHh4)
Got replaced by an actual word processor. Remember those? Then that got replaced by a 286...
By the time I got to typing class in middle school, I was proficient enough to test out of it. Just as well, I would have been rather bored...
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at May 05, 2012 05:16 PM (GJQTS)
When I was in grade school, my mom liked to visit places like St. Vincent de Paul, which collected junk and sold it cheap. I guess they were in the same business as Goodwill back then.
She didn't mind if we bought junk and brought it home. My brother and I did a lot of that, buying old radios and tearing them apart to take out all the resistors and capacitors, for instance.
One time I bought a manual typewriter which wasn't working properly, and took it apart (somewhat!) and put it back together.
And it worked afterwards, but I had a couple of pieces left. I never noticed anything that didn't work, so I still wonder just what those pieces were for?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 05, 2012 05:45 PM (+rSRq)
And it worked afterwards, but I had a couple of pieces left. I never noticed anything that didn't work, so I still wonder just what those pieces were for?
I can think of many, many situations where 'a couple of pieces left' after reassembling a machine would cause an immediate scramble for the exit.
Strangely enough, I do not remember using word processors. I probably did in my typing class, since I remember sessions where I typed the lesson and only after I was finished did everything come spitting out in one long chatter of type. Which reminded me of the tractor feed printer I had once upon the time for my Commodore 128.
C.T.
Posted by: cxt217 at May 05, 2012 06:41 PM (QzVZ+)
The one place where typing class has done me a disservice is that I end sentences with a double-space, and whoever the douche is who specified it in HTML decreed that all whitespace collapses together, thus you type two spaces, it displays as one, and whether it's stored as one or two is up to the gods. DeviantArt tries to help, replacing double spaces with two (non-breaking space) strings, which inflates the hell out of my file sizes and plays hob with the line breaking.
(ooh, and typing that escape string for nbsp and hitting preview shows it as unescaped text in the preview, but converts it in the edit box below the preview.)
Posted by: Mauser at May 05, 2012 07:58 PM (cZPoz)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at May 05, 2012 08:23 PM (5OBKC)
Typing class in high school was on selectrics, but I started earlier than that with an old cast-iron fully manual monster (Mom's from her college days.)
I'll break with tradition and say it was not the most useful class I took... Because I became an EE and had taken 3 years of vocational electronics in HS.
And I'm cursed to forever be a double-spacer. The concept has hung around in strange places... on the iPhone, space-space converts to period-space, so you don't have to switch to the "numbers and punctuation" screen when texting.
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Posted by: J Greely at May 06, 2012 05:31 PM (2XtN5)
There are times when it's really good to have a tsundere around! Especially when she's carrying a blaster and knows how to use it.
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Posted by: Siergen at May 05, 2012 07:47 PM (3/gGt)
For Now, when the entirety of my crew are still in the hospital, and the Bentenmaru is locked up and empty. But Later, once my real crew is back, and they've done all the checkouts on the main ship, and we're ready to start working again, I'll probably take it back and put it in the cargo bay of the Bentenmaru so that I can use it if I need it.
...that's how I read it. One thing is, I bet Marika starts using it to commute to the planet's surface.
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Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 06, 2012 05:48 AM (+rSRq)
While, given the value of the ship, it should probably be sold back to the Military or another legal owner and the money reinvested into the Bentenmaru, I wonder if there wouldn't be an insane amount of paperwork to pull that off.
Though, I don't know if they keep it around to use it in later Light Novels. There's a very nice utility to having a FTL-capable recon fighter in your hangar.
On the next episodes:
I've seen some listings for the episode titles and it appears we are getting an anime-original ending. But, the world is big enough that they can do that without hurting canon or putting themselves in a box for a second season run.
I really hope we get something like 3 episodes devoted to bridge crew backstory and some sort of interesting job arc.
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Posted by: ubu at May 06, 2012 07:05 PM (GfCSm)
It's not really so much a question of "character" given the kind of series storytelling we're seeing. The series would be more interesting if Ririka were on Bentenmaru, under Marika's command. Plus, the image of Marika and Ririka boarding a cruise liner side by side is irresistable. I don't think the author could resist it.
Having said that, I'm not really sure I think it would be out of character. Having Ririka be a cook might well be, but having her on the Bentenmaru wouldn't be IMHO.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 06, 2012 08:28 PM (+rSRq)
What I think may happen is that she ends up serving in the Barbarossa's bridge crew... as an experienced first officer, backing up soon-to-be Captain Chiaki. She may feel a debt to Chiaki's father for helping her daughter succeed as a pirate, and that would be one way to honor it.
Posted by: ubu at May 06, 2012 10:40 PM (GfCSm)
... they're doing it all for Show.
*grin*
Posted by: Mauser at May 06, 2012 11:57 PM (cZPoz)
Stevens remark that she methodically makes her plans is a virtue only if time allows. This may be a cultural thing. Against the Russians and Americans the Japanese did very well with complex meticulously thought out plans, but did less well when initiative was called for.
The episode would have been improved if she could have gotten away for a few moments or hashed it out on the bridge like she did earlier.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at May 07, 2012 05:08 PM (EJaOX)
The moment I hit "post" It dawned on me that the most likely courses of action open to Marika involved calling in favors from the princesses, using any dirt Jenny might be able to offer and brainstorming some quasi legal options as well. Neither the Royalty nor the Debutante would be comfortable discussing these things in front of a bunch of teenage girls and Marika did not want to involve the other students in grey areas any more than the situation already had.
Thus it does make sense that she hold a quick conference of war out of earshot of the others.
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Posted by: muon at May 08, 2012 07:05 PM (JXm2R)
May 04, 2012
And so, to reward us for steadfastly watching, this episode gives us a reward:
A catgirl in a bikini. (Her name is Xiao Mei.) Also Neris in a bikini.
Rather fashionable for a bitty isolated island, don't you think?
As to the rest of the episode, basically nothing happened, in terms of plot development. They recovered a huge box from under the sea and hauled it to shore, with Nick's help. And once they got it there, soldiers from the castle showed up and took everything. Apparently there's a rule there: Don't take anything from the ocean that you can't eat.
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Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at May 05, 2012 08:52 PM (5OBKC)
I don't think purgatory's supposed to be so happy, soft, fluffy, or to feature such short skirts.
Posted by: jcm3 at May 06, 2012 03:10 PM (OU30d)
May 02, 2012
As crappy a show as Medaka Box is, it has to be admitted that Medaka is good eye candy. I just downloaded the first four episodes and went through them for top rotation candidates. But a couple of them broke my heart. I really want to use them, but I'm not sure whether they're too ecchi.
So I'm soliciting opinions. There are seven images below the fold. Two I can definitely use. One I definitely cannot. And there are four that are really borderline, and might be considered NSFW. You have been warned.
I can't see myself mining the entire series, but a couple more episodes are probably in the cards. I found about 40 candidates in the first four episodes, but I'm not sure how many of them I can use -- and that's the main reason for this post.
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Posted by: David at May 03, 2012 07:38 AM (+yn5x)
Long, long time ago I remember a Dave Berg cartoon in Mad where a girl at the beach is changing her clothing. The door to the changing room opens briefly and shows her partially undressed, and she screams and pulls it shut again. Then at the end she comes out wearing a really skimpy bikini, which shows far more than anything seen in the previous frame, and she is completely comfortable in it.
That picture has been part of the top rotation ever since I switched to the flash file, and no one has ever objected to it. It reveals far more than any of these pictures here do.
...But it's a swimsuit, not a bra, so that makes it OK. Why?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 03, 2012 09:14 AM (+rSRq)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at May 03, 2012 10:06 AM (2XtN5)
OK, that's a good point.
Rats. I really like that fourth borderline one, but I guess I can't use it.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 03, 2012 10:08 AM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 03, 2012 04:23 PM (6CHh4)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 03, 2012 05:00 PM (+rSRq)
Not to argue it or anything.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 03, 2012 05:36 PM (6CHh4)
If you use that metric, then the fact that you're looking at any of this at work could be grounds for dismissal. The relative states of undress of the girls in the top rotation picture is icing on the cake for the HR types.
Posted by: Mark A. Flacy at May 03, 2012 06:01 PM (Zdi7L)
Frankly, how many people can claim a work-related reason to visit chizumatic during work hours?
Pixy, for one.
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Posted by: atomic_fungus at May 04, 2012 09:49 AM (vq4t5)
This video is quite fascinating to watch. It's a product from Japan, containing various plastic parts plus a bunch of foil pouches full of crystals. If you follow the instructions, you end up with a microscopic burger-and-fries meal. Everything you need is in it, including tools and dishes. The only thing you have to provide is a pair of scissors to cut everything apart, and to open the pouches, and a few pieces of cellophane tape.
The video shows the process from beginning to end.
It's apparently edible, though I can't imagine that it's very filling. And all the cooking is done in low-power microwave ovens. (Does anyone really make a 500 watt microwave oven?)
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I cant even...
..and yet...
I find I sort of want them to market burger crystals 'cause I kind of want to try just the burger.
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April 30, 2012
There's an ANN page now for the Dog Days sequel, and it has a cast list.
All the main characters from before are listed, and there's one new one: Kuberu E. Pastillage (クーベル・E・パスティヤージュ). Presumably that's the chipmunk-girl in the publicity art. The seiyuu is Aoi Yuuki, best known to me as Korone in Daimaou. But I'm sure that this character won't be like that. Presumably a chipmunk-girl will be genki, even hyper.
She was also Madoka in Puella Magi Madoki Magica, which is an entirely different kind of character. She's very versatile.
UPDATE: It's the same writer, but they've changed directors. I hope that doesn't bode ill.
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Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at April 30, 2012 04:12 PM (5OBKC)
I was actually pretty impressed. It's not shooting for being a masterpiece, but of the entire genre it sits in, it was quite good. The tone was consistent, the world made sense, it was enjoyable, the characters weren't really a bunch of idiots, it wasn't really setup as a harem series, there were other competent males in the cast and the fan service scenes weren't super distracting.
And, much credit to the writing staff for having a reason for "clothing damage". That alone makes the series a solid watch.
Though, I could have done without the super detailed list that Cinque had to follow to be able to come back. I would have preferred an unintentional comedy scene with more "fine print". Something like "they can return after 2 months if you didn't hate them when you sent them back, but you have 1 year or their memories are permanently gone", then point out most of the false information was due to the fact previous Heroes either didn't want to leave or previous summoners hated the people they summoned. But, that's being nitpicky.
It was a lot better than most of its genre. Or at least a lot more consistently enjoyable.
So, looking forward to this. The new director is competent, and if it was mostly the writer's world then it should come out decent. Director has a lot of experience with comedy, which won't hurt matters.
Posted by: sqa at May 04, 2012 07:00 AM (olIc+)
I do wonder what the story setup will be. Presumably, there's some huge danger elsewhere, and chipmunk-girl shows up and asked for help from Biscotti and Galette. That's my guess, but I wonder what the details will be. Who will eventually respond? What we want is for everyone to respond, but that makes for a pretty crowded story.
Galette: Leo, Gaul, Vert, Jaune, and Noir
Biscotti: Millefiore, Ricotta, Eclair, Brioche, Yukikaze (and likely the fox kit)
Earth: Shinku, Becky, Manami
Plus, presumably, Kuberu as a guide. That's a pretty big group.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 04, 2012 09:05 AM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 04, 2012 09:06 AM (+rSRq)
There's an entire world to flesh out and they can just put in a random demon antagonist. There's probably also a true capital city they could spend an episode or two in.
Oh, and one thing I really loved from the series. Shinku just accepted that they're Dog-humans and ran with it. Right down to playing frisbee with Millefoire. I like protagonists that end up in strange worlds and just go "eh, I can have some fun with this". And I couldn't stop laughing at the Leo + Millefoire petting scene. That was just too funny.
One interesting thing about the show, heavy spoilers:
Spoiler for Relationships: I found it interesting that this really wasn't a harem series. The only two actual romantic pairings they put forward were Shinku X Millefoire and Shinku X Eclair. Even for such a large cast, that's all they ever actually put forward. Which had a really nice effect of preventing the random "make sure to give Haremette Y an episode to appease the fans" problems. So the pacing wasn't hurt by that needing to be there.
Oh, and I loved the fact even Roland was shipping Shinku X Eclair, haha. It's not like everyone didn't notice Eclair liked Shinku. Though, in also one of the "good writing touches", Shinku really only ever saw the Tsun-side of the Tsundere archetype, yet Eclair's friends saw a lot of the dere-side, leading them to attempt to help the relationship along.
One other interesting side bit. A middle school aged boy would actually make a lot of sense for the type of movements they wanted him to do. Yes, his jumping ability isn't really doable, but if you've seen boys in gymnastics around that age, they're actually capable of something fairly interesting. They're actually at, generally, the peak of Strength over Bodyweight. They're about to put on a lot of height and weight and to reach the same Strength to Bodyweight level, they have to massively increase the amount of strength they have. (This is why male gymnasts you see compete are all college aged, as the male-focused equipment requires insane amounts of strength)
Yet, at the same time, these boys don't have specific types of strength available to them yet. You don't see many Iron Crosses at that age. They're more like overly strong female gymnasts. It's one of those things that you don't see often, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional, but it's one of the few times in anime that the young-age-protagonist actually makes a ton of sense. Plus, seeing Sasuke (Ninja Warrior) in an anime was fun. That stuff is brutal and awesome.
Posted by: sqa at May 04, 2012 03:49 PM (olIc+)
Gravity doesn't work the same in that world as it does in ours, as evidenced by all the floating islands and the odd floating castle, not to mention Shinku's flying flame-sled. So I wasn't too concerned about how Shinku seemed able to jump 50 or more feet in the air -- especially after he started using magic. And likewise, considering his strength, balance and coordination, I wasn't really offended by his ability to jump like that without crashing.
Besides, it's a fantasy. You have to cut some slack for the Rule of Cool.
The director of the first series knows how to do shows that don't get sidetracked by harem aspects, even if there is romance going on. He directed Nanoha A's and Nanoha StrikerS, and Dog Days is quite evidently related, in terms of story telling skill and series construction.
One of the reasons why there isn't any serious harem complication is that everyone can see that Millefiore has a huge crush on Shinku. And, well, she has priority. No one else is going to try to steal him from her as long as she wants him. I think that may have been part of Eclair's circumstances. She is intensely loyal to Millefiore, and would never, never do anything that would inconvenience the princess of the realm. Eclair's sense of duty is the foundation of her entire life. It's her reason for living, the pattern of her existence, the entirety of her self-esteem. Trying to steal the princess's boyfriend isn't acceptable.
I think that absent any other circumstances Rico might have made a play for him. But as it was, because Millefiore is Rico's best friend and princess of the realm, Rico kept him in the friends zone. But a good friend, a close friend, for such a short time.
There were a couple of things that suggested that the city-state ruled by Millefiore is part of a larger empire. Millefiore rules that particular principality, but there's a king or emperor or something elsewhere to whom she owes fealty. (Some of that I get from that wonderful letter at the end, which seems to have been sent to Biscotti from the capital.)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 04, 2012 04:30 PM (+rSRq)
April 28, 2012
If you thought waiting for this episode was hard, then waiting for the next one is going to be agony.
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Part of why he's willing to lend his only daughter to the Bentenmaru is that he thinks Chiaki may learn it from Marika. This job is an example: In plot terms it was necessary for someone to object to it, so that Marika could choose between alternatives, and Chiaki was it. But it was also in character for Chiaki. She's too by-the-book. She doesn't seem to be quite the risk-taker that Marika is. She isn't as dynamic.
And she sure as hell isn't as charismatic. Marika is a leader. She has the ability to inspire her subordinates, to gain their confidence, and convince them to let her take them into scary situations. I don't think Chiaki has that ability yet.
They did that last episode. The other girls got cold feet before the raid on the liner, and Chiaki exploded and started cussing them out. Marika interrupted her and gave an inspirational speech that rallied them all and left them smiling.
Chiaki does understand that there are times to object to the skipper's orders, and there are times to say ryoukai and do what you're told. She won't be insubordinate, and she'll carry out her duties well. She'll be an asset during this mission. But if she'd been in charge, they would have turned it down.
And once it's all over, Chiaki will know that she was wrong and Marika was right, and she'll grow as a result. I don't think Kenjo will be sorry.
Anyone notice that Chiaki doesn't object to -chan any more? She is definitely changing already. And some of the scenes of the two of them together in the captain's quarters have been fun, with Chiaki mothering Marika a bit.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 10:15 AM (+rSRq)
Also notice that when Chiaki has concerns, she does it out of sight of the others. The scene in the mess hall was before a final decision was made, so she was giving her opinion on the situation. But after a decision was made, while she still voices her concern, she knows how to be a good crew member.
That's definitely what Kenjo is up to with sending Chiaki over. Marika & Kenjo & Ririka are a lot alike, but Chiaki is a really damn good crew member. She's got the mental chops for being a captain but not the swagger to pull off the Leadership aspects. That can be trained up a lot until its natural, but it takes time. Kenjo probably figures he's got a bunch of years left, but he's started fixing that problem in Chiaki before she gets too old.
On the anime:
We'll get to at least episode 19 before all of this story arc is cleared up. That puts us with 7 episodes left. Give 1 episode of Dark Mami "filler" (but you know you'll enjoy it), then we can have 6 episodes left for an anime-original story. I do wonder if the original creator might have come up with something. There's a massive amount of side-story potential, and they've mentioned that the Bentenmaru does plenty of other work, some of which Marika isn't needed. They could switch her into one of those stories without changing the canon.
That also leaves and entire story arc that could fill a 24 episode run later, assuming this does well enough.
Posted by: sqa at April 28, 2012 11:43 AM (9gBG3)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 11:46 AM (+rSRq)
By calmly announcing that she had not yet agreed on the fee with Jenny, and asking Show to witness the negotiations, she put pressure on Jenny to "sweeten the pot". Savvy business woman that she is, Jenny recognized it as a good tactic and made an offer that even the princesses were impressed with. The ploy also demonstrated to Show that, even though friendship was clearly involved her initial decision to help Jenny, there were also sound long-term business reasons for her actions.
I'm now starting to suspect that Jenny's uncle at H&D may have been behind both the initial infestation of the Bentenmaru and the subsequent delays in the medical clearance of the crew. Jenny's friendship with Marika is no secret, and putting the professional crew out of action would eliminate any threat her getting outside help to escape. Now that he knows that that the Bentenmaru is crewed by "amateurs", both he and the H&D fleet will be overconfident, and leave themselves open...
Posted by: Siergen at April 28, 2012 12:47 PM (3/gGt)
I don't have any knowledge from the books, but it seems obvious the way to resolve this is through outside pressure. Mostly, firing on the Bentenmaru with Jenny + the entire Yacht Club on board, unprovoked, isn't going to sit well with several people. Like the government of the Sea of the Morningstar and a lot of Hue & Dolittle's clients. The joy of outside forcing.
Though Marika pulling that card would land her own butt in a huge set of problems with her high school. Though, technically, it would be Lynn that probably gets expelled for it. The boss takes the blame, in that type of situation.
Still, Marika could have something else up her sleeve. Next week should be fun!
Animesuki's thread has the first volume, first week sales at 4.6k. Which is super, but it could be a lot worse. Hard to say if they'll get a second series, though.
Posted by: sqa at April 28, 2012 01:23 PM (9gBG3)
Marika's deepest trump card is
Gruier and Grunhilde being on board. If it looks like Uncle is going to blow Bentenmaru out of the sky, then Marika can reveal their presence. I don't think that Uncle would want responsibility for killing them.
But Marika would rather not do that, because there would be hell to pay afterwards. She really doesn't want it known that she took two of the three legal heirs to the throne of Serenity into combat.
She seems to have made Bentenmaru a target. She wanted Uncle to fire on the ship. I wonder what she's thinking?
Marika is developing into the kind of strategic genius that Yurika was in Nadesico. With Yurika, if she was happy, then if she was doing things that seemed inexplicable it wasn't that she was crazy. It was that you were two steps behind her. And I suspect that's what's going on this time, with Marika. She's got some really clever plan in mind. It's risky, but she takes calculated risks.
One thing I'm looking forward to next time is Chiaki wearing a miko costume and carrying a blaster.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 01:49 PM (+rSRq)
One thing Marika has up her sleeve is
Lynn's hacking ability combined with Jenny's passwords and H&D security clearance. Between the two of them, they're going to mount a full-scale electronic attack on the H&D flagship, while Marika is doing things to distract Uncle.
Lynn's been straining at the leash to make a big EW attack anyway, and you have to believe her heart would be in this one. And we know she's really good at it. If she has Jenny's passwords to help her, I bet she'll be able to break through military-grade computer security.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 02:09 PM (+rSRq)
Jean Luc T. Marika would never expose the Princesses. It's not a trump card, it's a "well, we're f'd anyway" card. It's not that she wouldn't have thought about it, but she'd have quickly eliminated its usefulness. But having the Princesses not exposed is actually better as they could pressure on Serenity to shift contracts. External forcing, after all.
I had to go look at the preview again. I can't believe I missed both Chiaki as a Miko or Jenny having torn up the skirt of the wedding dress. But the important bit was the broadcast quality video camera that one of the girls was holding. Marika is going the full Punk'D style with this operation.
And, seriously, Shrine Maid with Blaster. That's going to make for some great gifs next episode.
Posted by: sqa at April 28, 2012 02:16 PM (9gBG3)
Losing a single pirate raid is something he could sweep under the carpet and recover from. Losing to a group of cosplaying school girls on film is not recoverable. They can either publish the film or use it for blackmail, but either way he's done for.
Posted by: Siergen at April 28, 2012 03:02 PM (3/gGt)
I didn't notice a camera. That is indeed interesting. That would certainly explain a lot. If that's the plan, it's brilliant. Film of him threatening a group of cosplaying high school girls would ruin him. You'd be able to hear the horselaughs all the way to the Pleiades.
Meanwhile, the refrigerator asks How did Jenny get the Silent Whisper out of the liner? Yeah, she's in the cockpit. But the docking bay is closed and pressurized. How did she get outside?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 03:14 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Siergen at April 28, 2012 03:33 PM (3/gGt)
And Lynn wasn't involved. Remember that she was surprised to see the Silent Whisper show up.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 03:43 PM (+rSRq)
My comment about Lynn was in reference to next weeks episode, when Lynn is manning the electronic warfare station instead of joining the boarding party.
Posted by: Siergen at April 28, 2012 03:50 PM (3/gGt)
Miko with a blaster... now that's different.
Posted by: ubu at April 28, 2012 04:46 PM (GfCSm)
Ubu, you might be right. But that seems a bit on the risky side, especially if your gunnery officer is a rank amateur. On the other hand, I don't have any other ideas. I guess we'll find out next week.]
Is it next Saturday yet?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 05:34 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Siergen at April 28, 2012 05:52 PM (3/gGt)
Posted by: Dave Young at April 28, 2012 06:16 PM (ZAk0Z)
Posted by: David at April 28, 2012 06:58 PM (Kn54v)
But we've speculated that the warships they allow everyone to buy and own are deliberately downgraded in terms of capability. We've been told explicitly (ep 7) that their computer systems are inferior, for example.
That seems to be one of the advantages the pirates have. In part because of the way they were grandfathered, and the way they slip through the cracks of the regulations, the Bentenmaru has better computers and apparently much better cannons than an equivalent sized treaty ship (i.e. warships permitted under the Empire treaty).
I've also been thinking that armor on these ships is pretty effective. Ordinarily I don't think of space warships as relying on armor for protection, simply because it's heavy and expensive, but with the kind of technology they have, perhaps it's an effective and worthwhile defense against low power beams.
In that way, too, the treaty ships seem inferior. Their weapons poked holes in the armor of the first Corback we saw in ep 8, but I think that the Bentenmaru's armor is better, and might well offer pretty good protection against the deliberately-crippled guns on treaty ships.
That's why Marika isn't hugely terrified about coming under fire from the H&D fleet. Not that it's any picnic, but it isn't one-hit-and-you're-dead territory either. And the treaty ships also have relatively inferior aiming systems. So they can pour out a lot of beams, but most (or all!) of them miss, and any which do hit don't actually do a lot. Bentenmaru's return gunnery, if it comes to that, can cripple relatively easily, as we saw in ep 10. (I don't think Marika intends to try to kill anyone in this.)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 06:58 PM (+rSRq)
Uncle is rolling the dice.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 28, 2012 06:59 PM (+rSRq)
Isn't the ship armed? Or what happens if you open a FTL jump inside of a ship? She could probably force her way out in a few ways. But having the Passcodes is probably the most likely scenario.
On the Ships:
The take on space is a weird combination of past Naval activities. The "Pirates" are actually some weird combination of 1600s Privateers and current day Private Military Contractors.
The Galactic Union's forcing ability is something akin to the US Navy in 1992 where its power is well over double what everyone else had, combined.
And the ships, which are GU designs, seem to operate like the current US Military export market. Yet the entire galaxy is under something like the Washington Naval Treaty from the Post WW1 era ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Naval_Treaty ).
It makes for an interesting universe. Plus, the GU's force projection isn't quite like the US Navy's in the Blue Water regions. The reach is long, but it's more against major powers. The locals police their own areas, so if you're in the "area between areas", then you need your own weapons.
Plus, Jenny & Gruier met at the opening of a "trade route" or "trade tunnel" (can't remember the exact term) run by Hugh & Dolittle. This is very likely an area of space they keep protected, acting something like a private military merged with a Toll Highway. The Tolls being less than the Insurance + Weapons cost of running an armed crew. Which is oddly what the modern Navies are attempting to do off the coast of Somalia at the moment.
On Episode 18:
One of the keys in 17, at the end, is that video of the attack on the Bentenmaru was being sent to the crew in the hospital ship. That's probably our hint as to what Marika is up to.
How do you take out a managing Director of a major company? You mount a coup among the board members. How do you do that? Get enough dirt to force a resignation. Which is exactly why Marika is going to Punk'D the hell out of Uncle. She has a contract, likely now on the books, to escort and protect Jenny. She'll have Jenny on video swearing to this, along with the assassination attempt; unprovoked attack on a registered, ID-displayed vessel; plus whatever else dirt Jenny or Lynn might have available. Yeah, Uncle is screwed.
Oh, and that boarding party in the preview. Marika doesn't bring Chiaki out, with a weapon, without a good reason. Marika isn't paying a house call. She's going to force a step down or she's going to end Uncle. She has plenty enough cover to invade and capture the capital ship. If Uncle happens to die in the raid, that's a sad tragedy. Which is exactly why Chiaki is there. Both her and Marika can drop a hammer if the situation calls for it. They won't, but it's going to be on the table for the first time.
On Armor:
I think, if we take the time Schnitzer met the Chamberlain with 4 glowing orbs, this universe is actually built more around armor than offensive weapons. Which might explain why the weapons that Ririka was showing Marika were so stupidly powerful for ship-boarding. It might take that much power to blast through bulkheads and personal combat armor. We'll see more later, I hope.
Posted by: sqa at April 28, 2012 09:35 PM (9gBG3)
Oh! Took me a minute to figure out what David did wrong..spoiler needs to be singular.
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at April 29, 2012 12:42 AM (EJaOX)
Posted by: David at April 29, 2012 08:53 AM (Kn54v)
I note the goons shot like stormtroopers... unless they were stupid enough to accost her armed with only lethal weapons (figuring on intimidation power), in which case their options became a lot more limited when she fired on them. Along the lines of, "Crap, we can't even afford to wing her! Ok, everybody shoot close to her and we'll scare her into surrender!"
Seriously, this girl stayed cool commanding an unarmed ship in battle, and they thought they were going to walk in and breathe heavy at her? Baka.
Posted by: ubu at April 29, 2012 10:59 AM (GfCSm)
In fact, simply having the Silent Whisper on that liner is pretty surprising, don't you think?
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 29, 2012 11:27 AM (+rSRq)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at April 29, 2012 11:58 AM (2XtN5)
Humorous (very not serious) outcome: what if the result of Uncle's fall is that Jenny takes over Hugh and Dolittle, and the Uncle's son is the one in a political marriage... say to a Princess of Serenity?
Posted by: ubu at April 29, 2012 12:42 PM (GfCSm)
Posted by: Mauser at April 29, 2012 12:52 PM (cZPoz)
Posted by: Dave Young at April 29, 2012 02:39 PM (ZAk0Z)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 29, 2012 02:39 PM (+rSRq)
I imagine there's a little subtlety in the translation, as well. The "Pirates" are a PMC. They're a legalized military force, but they still have rules to operate within. Otherwise they'd get hunted down, as well. They exist in the "black" world of political and military operations, yet they don't follow the orders of anyone specifically, just who's paying them and within the rules that won't get them dead or in prison.
Which is Chiaki's point. Marika's is that, so long as they don't get caught and don't do anything openly criminal, they're fine. Firing your weapons off is only a reprimand, really. So long as there's no evidence of what you hit, haha.
Posted by: sqa at April 29, 2012 03:48 PM (9gBG3)
Posted by: Siergen at April 29, 2012 04:36 PM (3/gGt)
Posted by: sqa at April 29, 2012 05:44 PM (9gBG3)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 29, 2012 06:11 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Mauser at April 29, 2012 09:42 PM (cZPoz)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at April 30, 2012 11:22 AM (fpXGN)
Posted by: Mikeski at April 30, 2012 01:00 PM (1bPWv)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 30, 2012 02:46 PM (+rSRq)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at April 30, 2012 03:37 PM (fpXGN)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 30, 2012 04:45 PM (+rSRq)
So I just ordered that, plus the Sacred Blacksmith BD, plus the Infinite Stratos BDs.
Not that I really need any of them; they're guilt buys and encouragement purchases.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 30, 2012 04:51 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at April 30, 2012 05:38 PM (5OBKC)
RACS says they've got it in stock as of today. Looks like I need to put in another guilt buy.For a second I thought that you meant that Mouretsu Pirates was in stock. Now I have to put my credit card back in my wallet (after it cools down) and wait for Saturday...patiently...waiting...
Posted by: Siergen at April 30, 2012 05:44 PM (3/gGt)
13 BDs for Mouretsu pirates, released once per month in Japan, about, and the second one was released a few days ago. It'll be next year before they're all out.
Sentai has licensed it for North America. I wonder when they'll be permitted to do their release?
Anyway, folks, RACS has "Cat Planet Cuties" (aka Asobi ni Iku Yo) in stock as of today.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 30, 2012 06:00 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at April 30, 2012 06:01 PM (+rSRq)
April 27, 2012
Episode 8, starting 05:45:
Marika: Then, Kane, please!
Kane: Where am I escorting her, anyway? We don't have any luxury rooms here!
Marika: Oh, yeah... Well, she can't go to the captain's quarters, and the cafeteria is definitely not an option! Misa, is there anywhere on board that she can go?
Misa: Let me think... Maybe the room where we keep those we've kidnapped?
Reason this is noteworthy is that it tells us that abduction is sometimes part of their business.
Maybe that's why Marika went to such extremes to demonstrate that Bentenmaru had not kidnapped Gruier. "Yeah, we've been known to do that on occasion, but not today! Not today!"
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