February 25, 2012
Seems like every time we resolve a mystery in this show, we reveal two new ones. That's how Shingu felt for most of its run, too.
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Posted by: BigD at February 25, 2012 12:09 PM (qLkdZ)
(and definitely Gruelle rather than Gruier, especially with a little sister named Grunhilde)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at February 25, 2012 12:41 PM (2XtN5)
All I can conclude from that is that he's going to show up again sometime and we (and Marika) are not supposed to recognize him when it happens.
Anyway, this ep adds to the mystery about him.
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Posted by: Siergen at February 25, 2012 04:14 PM (3/gGt)
Now that is an interesting thought...
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Posted by: Tom Tjarks at February 25, 2012 08:18 PM (ufeFI)
I can't tell for sure, having listened to it five times, but I think she's using a conjugation of the verb makaseru which means "to rely on". The last thing that Marika says is "makaseta" which is also that verb and means "I'm relying on you". I think Mami is saying "You can rely on me" or something to that effect.
But I could be wrong about that.
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-j
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February 24, 2012
Glory Road, Space Cadet, Citizen of the Galaxy are all available for the Kindle. But The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is not. I wonder why? (I want to read it again!)
Dream Park is available, and I just bought The Gripping Hand. Which is the sequel to The Mote in God's Eye, and is also a lot better story.
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Posted by: metaphysician at February 24, 2012 10:35 AM (3GCAl)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 24, 2012 11:18 AM (+rSRq)
As for the missing Moon, I suspect the most recent dead-tree contract included an ebook clause that conflicts with getting it on the Kindle.
-j
Posted by: J Greely at February 24, 2012 11:29 AM (2XtN5)
I have a hard copy library of thousands of books, mostly hardcovers. When I started heavily reading on my tablet, and using the kindle app for PC, I more or less stopped buying dead tree books. Some publishers, notably Baen, are fully willing to support this, you can get the ebook the day of release, or in many cases an advance copy months before the paper release, in either case for less than the cost of the hardcover. Pretty much the entire Baen catalog is available in ebook format.
Other publishers either don't release the ebook until months after the publish date, or want to charge the same price as the dead tree hardcover version. I'm sorry, that's not happening.
And then you get to how they handle the back catalog. There are certain series that I have in dead tree that I'd be perfectly happy to buy again in electronic version so I have access on the tablet, away from home, etc. But for most of my stuff, unless it's from Baen the odds are that either it's entirely unavailable, or only the most recent book in the series is available, and in either case it's going to cost more than a good quality used paperback at Powells.
Some publishers get the concept: take the old manuscript, spend a little effort putting it into a simple electronic format, scan in the cover art, charge a few dollars, easy money. But most of them simply can't grasp that. I just want to bang my head on the desk when I see something like Tor spending the time and effort to do a complete re-release of the Wheel of Time series with new cover art specific for the e-books, taking a couple of years to work through the whole series, and then not having the e-book available on day of release for the latest editions.
So here I am, a good customer, with money in hand and willing to spend it, and they don't seem to be interested. And yet they are upset and flailing around pointing fingers everywhere at their collapsing profit margins...
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Posted by: muon at February 24, 2012 02:01 PM (JXm2R)
http://www.baenebooks.com/p-575-king-davids-spaceship.aspx
And Outies is in the Kindle store:
http://www.amazon.com/Outies-Mote-Gods-Eye-ebook/dp/B004FGMURG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1330125174&sr=8-2
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Posted by: muon at February 26, 2012 09:34 AM (JXm2R)
Well mostly it would be about like reading one of those shrunken manga that are the size of a DVD case. The screen is even smaller than that.
But if it was created right, you could zoom in, and manually pan, and then it might be better.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 26, 2012 09:38 AM (+rSRq)
I was going to try to show you how it looks. When the Kindle is connected to my PC via USB, I can access the file structure. There's a directory called "Pictures", and I copied one page of the Negima scanlation into it.
But having done that, I can't figure out how to access it from the Kindle GUI. I wonder if that directory is an artifact of the basic Android system, and isn't used in the Kindle.
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Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 26, 2012 11:03 AM (+rSRq)


The Negima PNG I used as an example is 1119x1600. The top example shows the whole page, and it is definitely readable. The bottom shows what it looks like if you zoom in by hitting the magnifying glass icon twice.
You can get variable zoom by using two fingertips and moving them apart, so it's possible to get zoom levels in between those two. If there's a way to say "100%", I haven't found it yet.
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Posted by: Mauser at February 26, 2012 03:58 PM (cZPoz)
February 23, 2012
Did you know that one of Canada's biggest cultural exports is Harlequin Romances?
Where's a Canadian into whose teeth I can throw this? (Man, there's never a Canuck around when you need one.)
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Posted by: ubu at February 24, 2012 06:36 AM (i7ZAU)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 24, 2012 09:41 AM (+rSRq)

I was not aware of the Canadian angle to Harlequin romances. My mom went through those things by the dozen every month. After she passed away, we packed her collection up to give to one of her friends who also loved the things. We filled a good-sized rental truck completely, and still had a few hundred left over. Literally thousands upon thousands of the things. No idea how she could stand to read them.
Posted by: haphazard1 at February 24, 2012 05:03 PM (9yBYR)
February 22, 2012
Google is rumored to be working on a heads-up display for people to wear, like glasses. The rumor is that they'll be available by the end of this year.
Seems like I've seen this before.
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Posted by: David at February 24, 2012 12:06 PM (+yn5x)
That said, you can do the same thing a lot more easily if you can get people to put on a pair of glasses with earbuds and displays built in.
Posted by: BigD at February 24, 2012 12:24 PM (qLkdZ)
Posted by: Siergen at February 24, 2012 04:11 PM (3/gGt)
Well, as they say, if you get a service for free then you are the product being sold.
If it acted the way you describe, then you'd have to pay a subscription for the service.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 24, 2012 04:29 PM (+rSRq)
There's a phrase which is a very formal and abject apology which sounds to me like it's moshi wa ke arimasen but that's almost certainly not correct. One example of it is ep 11 of Daimaou at 18:44 (BD rip).
What is it?
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http://rut.org/cgi-bin/j-e/dosearch?sDict=on&H=PS&L=J&T=moshiwakearimasen&WC=none&FG=r&BG=b&S=26
"Wake" is a nebulous word that sort of means "situation", "circumstance", "what we're talking about". Also seen in phrases like "Sono wake ja nai!" ("that's not right/the case at all!"), frequently shouted by embarrassed haremettes.
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Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 10:07 AM (+rSRq)
What's next? Moshiwake ja nai, yo!
Posted by: Mauser at February 24, 2012 02:02 AM (cZPoz)
The great companies of my youth have all fallen by the wayside, often ignominiously. DEC was the superstar computer company for computer geeks when I was in college. It eventually was bought by Compaq, who in turn was acquired by HP, and HP's own future is no longer secure.
My first job was with Tektronix, then an independent company. 4 years ago it got bought by Danaher, a company I've never even heard of. But according to Wikipedia, Danaher also owns Fluke.
Sun Microsystems -- remember them? Purchased by Oracle, of all people. What does a software company that makes databases need with a hardware company?
National Semiconductor; back in the day, during the years when the industry hadn't yet standardized on the x86 CPU, there were a lot of companies coming up with rival CPUs. One of the best was National's 16016 and its successor the 32032. It was a very clean architecture, very orthogonal. And it went nowhere, and I never understood why. Last year National got acquired by Texas Instruments.
And now? I just read that Google is in the process of acquiring Motorola. That's really quite a shock. Google? Good Grief.
How long before PepsiCo acquires IBM?
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Oracle bought Sun primarily for Java. In the same transaction they also snatched Solaris, MySQL, and OpenOffice. They wanted Solaris in order to provide an integrated OS stack under their database and application suite, which was completely proprietary. This was especially acute for them as their clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux was a dramatic failure. MySQL was also hurting them badly.
IBM spun off a lot of their hardware business after the "rebirth". Not just little known divisious like hard drives. I am writing this on a Lenovo T400. I don't think anyone is going to buy the rest any time soon though. On the contrary, they are likely to buy what's left of HP.
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at February 22, 2012 09:59 AM (G2mwb)
They didn't. In fact, their play into the ultrabook/tablet market this fall may be their last chance to recover that position. Sure, they may have the most PC OS sales for decades to come, but if the PC market shrinks and fades away in a transition to convergence devices, what good does that do them?
I do give Wintel a pretty decent chance of pulling off a comeback, but MS cannot afford another Vista (or worse, ME), or there'll be another big-name brand on your list in our lifetimes. Intel, I think, has a stronger hand on their side, and may surprise the ARM market in a few years.
Posted by: BigD at February 22, 2012 11:06 AM (qLkdZ)
Microsoft has spent the last ten years desperately trying to diversify, and pretty much entirely failed. They've been trying to get into pocket computers and/or phones for most of that time -- remember WinCE? They tried to challenge for the game console business, and while XBox is competitive it hasn't taken over the business. And then there was MSNBC. And they tried to challenge for the portable music player market. They also tried to compete with AOL, and they continue to this day to try to compete with Google.
The desktop PC isn't going anywhere any time soon, so Microsoft isn't facing extinction, but it's hard to see what they bring to any other table. About the best they've ever done in any of those was to turn into a stable also-ran. They're #2 behind Google with Bing. They're #2 behind Sony with XBox. They're probably #3 behind Apple with their MP3 player, whatever it was called. WinPhone is losing to Android. And so on.
As to HP, that company doesn't deserve that name. The HP I know (and that I competed against when I worked at Tektronix) is now called Agilent, and it really should have gotten the HP name, leaving the other part to be called Compaq, because that's what was left. No thank you, Carly Fiorina.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 11:40 AM (+rSRq)
Posted by: The Brickmuppet at February 22, 2012 01:38 PM (EJaOX)
I have to disagree with your statement that MS is behind Sony with the XBox. They're ahead in worldwide sales, and the developers and buzz all seem to on the XBox side, and have been for some time. Only in Japan does the PS/3 still dominate, and the trend even there is that the XBox360 is finally being taken seriously and is selling in large numbers. And the WII actually blows them both away in terms of worldwide and Japanese sales numbers.
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Posted by: Pixy Misa at February 22, 2012 03:05 PM (PiXy!)
Microsoft has hooked up with Nokia, which has announced that all its phones will use WinPhone from now on. Nokia has fallen on hard times recently. Time was when they were the brand to beat in the phone business, but it ain't like that now, and Android is a lot of the reason why.
So maybe that partnership will be a win for both companies.
But with WinPhone, Microsoft's big problem is that Google is giving Android away for free. WinPhone can't be, else there would be no point in Microsoft even bothering to do it.
Google's business strategy is to try to make internet access as common, as cheap, and as easy as possible. They're trying to make internet access devices into commodities, because the more people who are online, the more money Google makes from advertising.
So it actually makes sense for them to invest in Motorola's phone business, including picking up their patent portfolio. It doesn't make sense for them to use those patents to squeeze competitors, and I don't expect they will.
That's why they developed Android and then gave it away.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 03:17 PM (+rSRq)
Interestingly, apparently some of the Android phone makers, HTC at least, have licensed some Microsoft patents, and there's a theory out there that MS may actually be making more money on each individual Android phone than on each Windows Phone phone, at least from HTC.
Posted by: RickC at February 22, 2012 04:18 PM (/5bLf)
I can believe that Google wants to use Motorola's patents as a wedge to get MS and Apple to loosen up the licensing on their respective portfolios of relevant patents.
That would make perfect sense.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 04:22 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 05:06 PM (+rSRq)
Microsoft is Number 2 in the current game console generation behind Nintendo. Sony lags behind both. That Sony has any large share of the video game market came despite their efforts, not because of them. With the exception of the price cuts for the PS3 and PSP (Which came far too late in the game.), every move Sony has made in its gaming division of this generation has required at least one failed attempt before they made the right decision. Meanwhile Microsoft has taken the lead in online gaming for consoles, which is not an insignificant achievement. Outside of Japan, Sony's share in the gaming industry is a distinctly underwhelming third.
If anything, it is easier to argue Microsoft is mostly where it wants to be in the console market.
Posted by: cxt217 at February 22, 2012 05:22 PM (47Cgj)
I guess my knowledge of that market was out of date.
I do know that the primary goal of the PS3 for Sony was to get Bluray players in as many hands as possible. Anything they may have lost in the gaming industry, they've more than made up by killing off the HD-DVD format and making Bluray the new standard for video discs.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 22, 2012 05:37 PM (+rSRq)
As for Sony. . . I suspect your right, and they placed winning the format war above all else. However, they screwed themselves when they decided to drop backward compatibility from the PS3. Everyone else learned the lesson of the PS2, but Sony either didn't, or felt they had no choice.
Posted by: metaphysician at February 22, 2012 08:57 PM (3GCAl)
The touting of the PS3 being used to push Blu-Ray always struck me as a case of Sony using the success of a lesser goal for the PS3 to divert attention from the failure of the console system at beating the XBox 360. Given Sony's (continual) confusion in its remarks about whether the PS3, as well as the PSP, are gaming systems or entertainment units...I tend to be skeptical of what Sony actually wanted to achieve.
And we have not even gotten into the mistakes Sony apparently has not learned from yet, like PS2 backwards compatibility...
Posted by: cxt217 at February 22, 2012 09:14 PM (47Cgj)
I don't know that Kinect will make MS a fortune (probably depends on the patents), but it certainly stands to make *some* folks working in garages a pile of money, especially when it comes out for PCs with a full dev kit. Forget Google's "nod and tilt" GUI--imagine a pair of glasses where you see transparent 3D buttons in front of you, and you put your finger on one to select it--or use Kinect-based voice recognition, which I hear isn't far behind Siri, if at all. Or a projector filling a way with an interactive display, a la MS Surface.
Minority Report? Where we're going, we don't need gloves.
Posted by: BigD at February 23, 2012 03:20 PM (qLkdZ)
February 21, 2012
I'm beginning to wonder if the book prices I'm seeing are being adjusted.
I've bought four Rex Stout mysteries so far. The first, The Golden Spiders, cost me $5.99.
Some Buried Caesar and Gambit were $7.99. And then Too Many Cooks was $11.99.
Some computer program going, "Ha! We got a live one here! Hooked on this author, so let's hike the price on him!" ?
I'm thinking I should go through all the others I'm considering and write down their prices, just to see if they change on me later.
I can't really think of any other reason why Too Many Cooks would cost twice as much as The Golden Spiders. They're nearly the same length.
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Posted by: metaphysician at February 21, 2012 10:59 AM (3GCAl)
So, of the 9 books uploaded on July 9, 2010, Fer-de-Lance is 6.99, Too Many Cooks and Please Pass the Guilt are 11.99, and the rest are 7.99.
-j
Posted by: J Greely at February 21, 2012 11:13 AM (2XtN5)
For what it's worth, I'm seeing the same pricing on those books, and I also see the "pricing set by the publisher" notice, which I guess means it's not Amazon jerking you around (that disclaimer isn't on every book). No idea why the prices would be so different (for a shorter book, no less).
I think Amazon used to have standardized pricing on all Kindle books, but the publishers threw a fit a while back and now they get to charge more (or less)...
Posted by: Mark at February 21, 2012 04:43 PM (i24Ag)
http://carlos.bueno.org/2012/02/bots-seized-control.html
One self-published author's adventures in robotic arbitrage.
Posted by: pgfraering at February 23, 2012 05:46 PM (IUKRp)
Think maybe that the reason for "Measurement day" is to aggregate all the numbers so that the stores can stock the proper amounts of various sizes of school uniforms?
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Posted by: Siergen at February 21, 2012 02:57 PM (3/gGt)
Search for 妿 ¡ä¿å¥çµ±è¨ˆèª¿æŸ» (School Health Examination Survey), and you can find some of the data, such as this spreadsheet breaking down height and weight by grade over 1995-2010.
-j
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February 19, 2012
It's been three years since the last one, so here it is: Ladies versus Butlers, Sengoku Otome, Sacred Blacksmith, Aika Zero, Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi
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I'm not even sure how I want that to work. I dunno, something like...these?
Both surprised, but... "I kinda like this. We should do more of it." "Maybe in private?"
Surprised and embarrassed at first, but bystander leering goads them both into honest smooching?
Girl enjoys the situation, but boy maintains his own dignity and the girl's because he actually does respect her, maybe? "Girl, if I ever grope you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you won't be carrying so many groceries you can't see where you're going."
It could be a fun setup, but it gets wasted time and time again. In exactly the same way. Boring.
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Posted by: tellu541 at February 19, 2012 03:06 PM (pJ1uW)
That doesn't sound like any fun; why did they bother?
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Posted by: Avatar_exADV at February 19, 2012 03:40 PM (GJQTS)
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at February 19, 2012 03:47 PM (GJQTS)
I think it was precisely to underline that they weren't telling that kind of story. Virtually every character in the show is a complete innocent when it comes to romance (even to the point of implausibility when it comes to Nanoha and Fate.)
Except for the scene where Subaru molests Tia.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 19, 2012 03:53 PM (+rSRq)
FWIW, the font size in the piece changed almost per line in the second half of the post... at least for me. I'm using Firefoxy and XP, and don't usually have difficulty with your formatting.
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Posted by: muon at February 19, 2012 05:43 PM (JXm2R)
February 18, 2012
Hey, Crunchyroll! How did "Bentenmaru" become "Bicentenary"? Someone use a spell checker on the translation?
(I think we need a new QA person on this show. The current one is an idiot. You should always review and approve every change made by a spellchecker.)
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This episode just wasn't as good as the last couple. But being the beginning of a plot arc, I suppose it really couldn't be. And the next episode certainly will be interesting.
I bet the stowaway is that blonde princess.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 18, 2012 10:24 AM (+rSRq)
And I really, really didn't like the makup. For one thing, it seems like she's trying to imitate her mother.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 18, 2012 10:51 AM (+rSRq)
As for Marika, the makeup, speech-pattern change, and trigger-happy behavior are obviously a deliberate imitation of Mom (even adopting the "kaizoku no jikan!" line); she didn't take Schnitzer's advice, and IMHO she's going to have it rubbed in her face Real Soon Now. This ties in neatly with the chat between Mami and Chiaki.
And the condition of the ship? The crowded hallway that should be clear, the casual reaction to "bad shooting" and unexpected behavior by the escorts, etc, are giant flashing signs reading "complacency". The Bentenmaru has gotten fat and lazy on easy peacetime targets, and, as they say, "shit's about to get real".
-j
Posted by: J Greely at February 18, 2012 11:15 AM (2XtN5)
-j
Posted by: J Greely at February 18, 2012 11:21 AM (2XtN5)
Re complacency: Another thing was discipline on the bridge during the attack. Everyone did what they felt like without asking Marika first, and they all seemed rather cocky.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 18, 2012 12:51 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: tellu541 at February 18, 2012 01:17 PM (pJ1uW)
What bugs me is that the whole piracy thing is basically just one giant insurance fraud scam. I wouldn't be at all surprised if 10% of those stolen valuables wound up back in the hands of the clients.
Posted by: tellu541 at February 18, 2012 01:22 PM (pJ1uW)
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Posted by: Steven Den Beste at February 18, 2012 02:23 PM (+rSRq)
As a side note, I did like the makeup. I can guarantee you it wasn't something she put on herself; that was heavy, noticeable blush intended to stand out at a distance.
Clearly it was stage makeup. But I don't think she needs it. Bentenmaru's schtick now is that their captain is a fresh young joshikousei. That makeup made her look like a hooker, which works against the schtick.
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Posted by: Dave Young at February 18, 2012 10:06 PM (ZAk0Z)
But I think we'll learn more about it all later in the series.
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Posted by: Dave Young at February 19, 2012 04:20 PM (ZAk0Z)
"An expert hacked our sensors to sneak on board."
"Are there any explosives?"
"No, the sensors don't report any."
I see a flaw in your logic there, Bentenmaru...
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