October 22, 2007
I no longer live in San Diego, but I don't wish the place ill. I'm feeling very worried right now. There are what are known there as "Santa Ana winds", which blow hard, continuously, from east to west. That's going on right now and it's fanning some pretty serious fires. San Diego is in big trouble:
This is really bad. The majority of the burned area is just in the last 24 hours, so you can see how fast the fires are moving. And they're headed for Escondido and San Diego itself.
A quarter million people have already been ordered to evacuate. And it won't be saved by rain; it doesn't start raining there until January.
UPDATE: In fact, most of that was in just 12 hours. Here's the same image from 12 hours earlier:
Those new ones between I-5 and I-15 scare the hell out of me. They're going to burn west, right to the coast. Encinitas and Solana Beach are in grave danger. And I can't see anything that can save Escondido.
UPDATE: Good old Reuters, what would we do without them? "Women and Minorities affected worst"
UPDATE: The SD Union Tribune is far from being the world's best newspaper. During all the years I lived in SD I bet I didn't buy more than 10 copies of it. But they're obviously man-on-the-spot for this, and they're trying to maintain current online info. Based on their current map, it looks like the Ramona fire went south of Escondido, and has completely engulfed the Rancho Bernardo area. (And cut off I-15.)
Those pictures above came from here.
UPDATE: The area where I used to live (just east of Del Mar) is now under mandatory evacuation because of the Witch fire. According to at least one report, that fire has reached Rancho Sante Fe. At the rate it's going, it'll reach the sea before morning, which means good by to Cardiff-by-the-Sea and Solana Beach, or at least part of them.
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Posted by: Will at October 22, 2007 04:40 PM (E3UGR)
When I first moved to San Diego, I was surprised by the fact that all the houses had terra cotta tile roofs. In earthquake territory, you'd think that wouldn't be such a good idea.
But the reason for it is because of fire danger. A roof made of tar paper, which is what is normal here in the Portland area, would be a horrible fire danger in San Diego. Burning embers blown by the wind which fall on a terra cotta roof are much less likely to make the house start burning.
So tile roofs are required by the building code.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at October 22, 2007 04:49 PM (+rSRq)
They also look better combined with the stucco-on-lathe exterior that's been dominant in the Southwest since the late 80's early 90's. The tiles stand up to the punishing sunlight a little better as well. The only thing you have to worry about is the underlayment (still often tar-soaked felt or a rubber membrane) decaying. Shingles just shrivel up after a few years here in Phoenix.
Posted by: Will at October 22, 2007 05:06 PM (E3UGR)
Posted by: metaphysician at October 22, 2007 07:47 PM (KVPNK)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at October 22, 2007 07:55 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 22, 2007 10:56 PM (PiXy!)
San Diego had huge fires in 2003, too; I blogged about it at the time. Last time the Mt. Palomar observatory was threatened. This time it doesn't look like it's in danger. The fire would have to move a considerable distance upwind to get to it.
But anything can happen when it comes to this stuff.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at October 22, 2007 11:21 PM (+rSRq)
There was the fire after the San Francisco quake of 1906 also, but I didn't mention it or Chicago, because I assumed the question was about wildfires moving in from the country to the city, rather than starting within the city itself. If you want to include those, there's a loooong history including London and Rome.
If you want to include war-caused, there's Dresden, Atlanta, Tokyo...
Posted by: ubu at October 23, 2007 05:18 AM (dhRpo)
Posted by: Will at October 23, 2007 05:51 AM (E3UGR)
Posted by: metaphysician at October 23, 2007 06:08 AM (KVPNK)
metaphysician: Never been to Houston, eh? We've got a couple of barns right down there on the South Loop. 'Course, we calls 'em "Reliant Stadium" and "th' Astrodome"*, but hey, a barn's a barn, whether the cows y'keep in it are sacred or not!
*Actually, you could argue it is a barn for two weeks every year, during the Texas Livestock Show and Rodeo.
Posted by: ubu at October 23, 2007 11:23 AM (dhRpo)
Posted by: PatBuckman at October 23, 2007 01:36 PM (9Z4a7)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 23, 2007 09:09 PM (PiXy!)
There have been several deaths. Earlier today I saw a report which identified 5 deaths, but three of those were people who were over 90 years old, who simply don't handle excitement and rapid movement well. Any death is sad, but I don't think it's quite the same when someone who's 92 dies as if it were a child or young adult.
What worries me more is that a handful of firefighters suffered severe burns. A couple of them are critical, which may mean that if they survive they'll be maimed for life.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at October 24, 2007 12:32 AM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 24, 2007 02:12 AM (PiXy!)
(OK, figured out again how to register...)
The Oakland (CA) Firestorm of 1991, destroyed over 3,000 dwellings, killed 25 people, and injured about 150.
I was across the Bay at Candlestick, and we had to stand up every few minutes and brush the ashes off our laps.
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