November 06, 2010

The Guns of Asobi ni Iku Yo -- eps 3 and 4

To try to keep things from getting completely crazy, I'm limiting the number this time. there are a lot of guns in these episodes, too, but mostly the pictures aren't very clear, and it's the usual mix of submachine guns, pistols, one chain-fed machine gun which is probably .30 cal, and one riot weapon that fired a non-lethal impact round with four wings, sort of.

Anyway, below the fold, again.


At the beginning of ep 3, Aoi and Manami are preparing to go on the run. They both think they're fugitives, having seriously interfered with high level plans by big-time illuminati. Aoi packs up the few belongings she's going to take with her, including filling a guitar case with weapons and ammunition:

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One pistol is the Beretta that James originally noted. (By the way, later in this episode when Manami is firing it, it lets off bursts of three, rather than just hosing.) The other pistol is a Browning Hi-power. CHALLENGE 01 is that rifle. Here are two more images of it:

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It's got a telescopic site, and Aoi shoots out the tire on a fleeing car with it.

Aoi's routine carry weapon is CHALLENGE 02:

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In ep 6, she's shown firing and reloading it. Here's the cartridges she uses:

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It's got a Smith & Wesson logo on it, and it takes five cartridges. I don't assume this will be very difficult. (I bet James owns this one, in fact.)

Later in episode 4, our team ends up flying to Tokyo and visiting a famous shopping mall there. It seems that this is an alternate Earth, because there are some differences. For one thing, magic works. For another, it looks like the gun laws are quite a lot different. There are gun stores in the mall. Walking past one, Manami gets sucked in by this one, CHALLENGE 03, on display:

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Like seriously sucked in. The "Rhino" logo plus some googling gave me the answer for this one, but I won't say what it is.

Meanwhile, Aoi is walking past another shop and sees this:

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It's CHALLENGE 04. Aoi herself identifies it thusly: "The Colt 1916 from the Nikkatsu Noir movie?"

The label in the corner says 本平勿!! 日活 コルト  "This, of course, (is the) Nikkatsu Colt".

Only thing is, there's no such thing as a "Colt 1916". It looks to me like a customized M1911, perhaps created as a movie prop. But those bullets are not .45 ACP, so I'm not just sure what this thing is. It's possible that this is notional, something they invented for this show.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in General Anime at 08:46 PM | Comments (15) | Add Comment
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1 Challenge #1 is an SVD or close relative. It's not a PSL/FPK, though: handguard and gas system are wrong, and so's the receiver.

Challenge #2 is a S&W J-frame, but I can't find anything in their current catalog that meets that description and has grips quite like that. (The cylinder release button also seems off, but could just be an art failure.) Maybe a 637?

Challenge #3 is pretty clearly a Chiappa Rhino. I didn't have to look it up, but I've been thinking about buying one for giggles.

Challenge #4 looks a lot like a Colt Pocket Hammerless. Dunno what to make of the cartridges, though.

Posted by: Canthros at November 06, 2010 09:30 PM (U/oKH)

2 I think you're right about the fourth one. I wonder if those bullets are supposed to be 9mm Browning Long, drawn to exaggerate the difference between the ball and cartridge case?

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 06, 2010 09:58 PM (+rSRq)

3 When I was reading up on the Rhino, one thing that was noteworthy is that like the legendary Mateba, the Rhino fires from the bottom of cylinder instead of the top, in order to better balance the recoil.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 06, 2010 10:00 PM (+rSRq)

4 Looks like you nailed the first one.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 06, 2010 10:06 PM (+rSRq)

5 #1 surely is the Balalaika.  Not to be confused with the character from Black Lagoon, who got her name from her skill with the weapon...

Posted by: Wonderduck at November 07, 2010 12:03 AM (vW/MM)

6 I laughed out loud when I saw CHALLENGE TWO because the first thing I thought was "Taurus Judge".  The cylinder is almost big enough.  After my comment of before....

S&W on the barrel nixes that.  Guess I get to wait longer.

Posted by: atomic_fungus at November 07, 2010 12:47 AM (X50t/)

7 I'm pretty sure that wasn't an actual gun store in the mall - the dialogue made it clear that the Rhino was a garage kit model (rather than a massed produced airsoft), and the Colt is a fake used as a movie prop.

Posted by: DiGiKerot at November 07, 2010 01:12 AM (MD7BC)

8

Robert, of the Corner Store, offers his guesses.

I don't think he's right about the last one, because it is labeled "Colt", and someone like Aoi wouldn't be taken in by a Russian gun.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 07, 2010 06:19 AM (+rSRq)

9 I see what Robert's getting at with the Tokarev, but it doesn't have the Tok's slide release, either. (And the slide serrations are wrong.) I wonder if the artist only had a picture of the right-hand side of the gun?

Not sure the first wheelgun's a Smith Model 60, either. The Model 60 seems to have a full-length underlug on the barrel, which the gun depicted is without. OTOH, I really don't know from wheelguns.

Biggest problem with the SVD is the mismatched furniture. The handguard's from an SVD, the stock's from an SVD-S (which had a matching, synthetic handguard and grip) and the grip ... is from who knows where. Maybe it's supposed to be an AK grip or cut down from an SVD stock. Or, maybe it's a variant or clone Wiki and world.guns.ru don't know about, or maybe it's just cobbled together from spare parts. (Or, maybe it's the Balalaika rifle Wonderduck mentioned. I can't find anything on that to check.)

I remember the Browning from that episode, though. I carry one (in different trim), so it sorta stood out.

Posted by: Canthros at November 07, 2010 09:05 AM (U/oKH)

10 those first three kanji in challenge 4's sign are actually two: 本物 "the real thing"

Posted by: nova at November 07, 2010 09:33 AM (nULvx)

11 Canthros, "Balalaika" is allegedly the nickname given to the Dragunov by either the Russian/Soviet army or Spetsnaz (Black Lagoon doesn't explicitly state which the character's unit is from), it's not a different weapon.

So take that for what it's worth.

Posted by: Wonderduck at November 07, 2010 10:32 AM (vW/MM)

12 Challenge 02 could be a Smith & Wesson Model 637, a five-round revolver in .38.

link here: sadly, that link shows a picture of the right side, but not the left side, of the revolver.

I can't claim any expertise, except I looked at my Model 60 and said 'close, but not quite right'. So I paged through S&W's current offerings in small-frame revolvers, and turned up Model 637.

Posted by: karrde at November 07, 2010 01:26 PM (ekCkq)

13 The folding stock looks like one from an Israeli Galil ARM.

In order for it to fit, the rifle would have to be a PSL/FPK. However, the rifle in question has a Dragunov foreguard and a Drag magazine in it ( PSL mags have an embossed large "X" on the sides, the two do not function when interchanged ... different feed ramp angles inside the two rifles ).

One could WECSOG the snot out of the folding stock to make it fit a Drag.

Regardless, it ain't issue anywhere.

Posted by: kbarrett at November 17, 2010 11:38 PM (cxBLR)

14 Oh, and challenge 2 is a Smith & Wesson model 36 Chief's special. I own a similar featherweight Model 38 Bodyguard ( the bobbed hammer version ). The three digit number system was adopted recently, and does not match up with the older Smiths.

Challenge 3 is a Chiappa Rhino revolver ... firing position on the cylinder is at six oclock, and the barrel is low to match. The makers are the same folks who made the gas operated semi-auto Meteba revolver that the non-cyborg cop character in Ghost in the Shell carries.


Posted by: kbarrett at November 18, 2010 12:10 AM (cxBLR)

15 Challenge #4 is an artist error. The profile looks like the right side ( no safety lever or ejection port ) of a Colt 1903 or 1908 Hammerless.

Except that they drew the left side.

If they had put the safety on that side, and drawn the grip safety ( which is completely missing ), it would be correct.


Posted by: kbarrett at November 18, 2010 12:21 AM (cxBLR)

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