July 24, 2009

The beatings will continue until morale improves

Pete comments on someone else's comments regarding Juuden-chan, to the effect that the other guy sometimes hates the baseball bat and sometimes likes it. And talks about double standards.

No double standard here about that kind of thing: I don't like exaggerated violence for comedic purposes.

I don't like tsunderes. I don't find them amusing. I didn't like seeing Dokuro-chan killing that poor bastard with her spiked club. I didn't like seeing Louise beating up Saito. I didn't like the awful things that were done to the wimpy guy in Girls Bravo. And in general I really hate it when comedy relies on someone gets beaten up to get a laugh.

Alright, I have to confess to one exception: I liked watching Kaede beat the crap out of Onsokumaru in Ninja Nonsense. But not because there was any pretense that it was funny. I liked it because I despise Onsokumaru and want him dead. If I can't have him dead, I want him in agony.

But I don't like watching girls beat up guys, with or without weapons, and I don't like guys beating up girls, with or without weapons. At least I don't in comedies; there isn't anything faintly humorous about it.

I mentioned the other day that I thought that Juuden-chan was a monumental trainwreck. The guy's baseball bat was a big part of that, and it's the main reason I'm not interested in watching further.

UPDATE: That, by the way, is the main reason I didn't get past the first episode of Nagasarete Airantou. It was obvious that the primary source of "humor" was going to be the guy getting beaten up.

UPDATE: DIE, Onsokumaru! Die!

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in General Anime at 07:07 PM | Comments (5) | Add Comment
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1 I don't mind tsunderes. . . but I prefer them a little more traditional.  Less "trying to kill the male lead", more "touchy and prone to over-reaction."

Posted by: metaphysician at July 24, 2009 08:20 PM (M5Kik)

2 For the strangest tsundere ever, try Bakamonogatari.  As she pronounces her self as such, the male lead puts it; "More like a tundra."  I thought she'd changed significantly at the end of the second ep. (reason is a spoiler) but the all-talk no-action third episode showed that no, thats the real her.

Posted by: ubu at July 25, 2009 08:38 AM (jjZe8)

3 Not all tsundere are the same, that's for sure.  Taiga from ToraDora and Kyoko from Maison Ikkoku are two I like.
Louise does get a little tiresome....

Posted by: Toren at July 25, 2009 09:34 AM (T8y65)

4 I'm curious, Steven:  what do you think of the more violent Looney Tunes, for example the Coyote and Roadrunner?  That's what Dokuro-chan reminded me of.  Over the top violence that was unpleasant for the recipient, yet ultimately consequence free.  (That's ignoring the difference in gore levels, of course.)

Posted by: ngthagg at July 25, 2009 08:51 PM (AXxiE)

5

That isn't the same. Warner Brothers knew what they were doing when they used anthropomorphic animals in that instead of humans (mostly).

It's true that such things sometimes happened to Yosemite Sam, but he's so unrealistic, visually in terms of behavior, that I can't identify with him as a human.

And... you never saw any blood.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 25, 2009 08:55 PM (+rSRq)

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