July 17, 2007

Suzumiya Haruhi 2: Mikuru's provenance

"Provenance" is a cool word; it's a pleasure to find a use for it. Though it's far from being a perfect series, some of the ideas presented in Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu are intriguing and have led to enormous fan speculation.

One big question is, who is Asahina Mikuru really?

Of course, there's no requirement that she be anyone in particular other than just a random person from the future who was selected as an agent by the time travelers, probably because of how she looks. But in a series like this there can be coincidences -- or things which turn out not to be coincidence. And so fans speculate that she's related to someone-or-other.

The hair color is slightly different, but that doesn't prove anything. A lot of people's hair changes color as they grow up, and in any case there is such a thing as hair dye.

The hint that proponents of this theory use is that the older version of Mikuru does a "boy am I dumb" gesture involving winking an eye and knocking a fist on her skull and sticking out her tongue, and shortly thereafter we see Kyon's imouto do exactly the same gesture.

That alone wouldn't be persuasive. However, I noticed that they have the same eyes. Mikuru and Imouto's eyes are different from LOL Fang-tan next to Imouto, but they're the same as each other.

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Posted by: Michael Brazier at July 17, 2007 11:18 PM (fNlux)


Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 17, 2007 11:27 PM (+rSRq)


I really don't buy either theory.  

Posted by: ubu roi at July 18, 2007 09:04 AM (dhRpo)


Posted by: Avatar_exADV at July 18, 2007 09:15 AM (dlP4b)


Posted by: Tatterdemalian at July 18, 2007 01:38 PM (9WY0M)

6 Pixy, why is Tatterdemalian's spoiler just above this showing in clear on the comments preview sidebar?

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 01:44 PM (+rSRq)


Posted by: Tatterdemalian at July 18, 2007 01:48 PM (9WY0M)

8 Sorry, folks, I'm going to freeze this thread so as to preserve evidence for Pixy to work on.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 02:46 PM (+rSRq)

9 Pixy seems to have fixed the problem, so this thread is open again.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 06:30 PM (+rSRq)

10 Sorry about that... I saw my post was inside the spoiler block, and didn't think to check the sidebar as well.

Posted by: Tatterdemalian at July 18, 2007 07:25 PM (j8zCH)


Not your fault. I posted this the other day over at Brickmuppet's:

That's what it means to be part of a "beta". We have been turning up problems, and that's exactly what Pixy hoped we'd do. It's the reason he offered us free use of the system.

Better by far to find those problems now than to have them turn up after this place gets established with hundreds of paying customers.

We are what are known as "black box" testers. The opposite is "white box" testing, which means that the tester understands the internals and is deliberately shooting for the places where problems are most likely to be found. Pixy has been doing his own white box testing.

But there's no substitute for black-box testing. "Black Box" testers don't know what's going on in the code so they attack with less predictability, across a wider front. To some extent a white box tester is limited by his preconceptions, but black box testers have no such limitations and will find some of the damndest things. I speak as a software developer myself when I describe this, and believe me, black box testing is essential.

So don't apologize for making things break. I haven't been. We have been doing exactly what Pixy hoped we'd do: to use the system heavily and to turn up problems he himself can't find.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 07:51 PM (+rSRq)


Of course, that's not to say that we should be acting like vandals. That's not the point. But if we're using the system as it's intended to be used, and if we turn up things that don't behave as they should, that is A Good Thing.

And we have been -- "we" in this case being my commenting readers and myself. We've found a lot of stuff.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 08:07 PM (+rSRq)

13 Yep.  This was a minor oversight on my part, easily fixed - but it was a bug, and not any error on your part, Tatterdemalian.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 18, 2007 08:22 PM (PiXy!)

14 The other part of our job as beta testers is to keep our eyes open for problems, to bring them to Pixy's attention, and not to get huffy about them.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 18, 2007 09:27 PM (+rSRq)

15 And now that the bug's fixed ...

Posted by: Michael Brazier at July 18, 2007 11:22 PM (fNlux)


Posted by: Avatar_exADV at July 19, 2007 12:47 AM (dlP4b)

17 There's your bug again - and I'll bet it's because I forgot to close the spoiler tag. Sorry...

Posted by: Avatar_exADV at July 19, 2007 12:49 AM (dlP4b)

18 Yeeeah.  If you don't close a tag, the BBCode engine automatically makes things right.  But the despoileriser is just a regexp, and doesn't know any better.  Though... Yeah, that should work.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 04:14 AM (PiXy!)

19 Fixed!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 04:17 AM (PiXy!)

20 You know, warnings about it being overrated aside, commentary on this site is making me want to check out Haruhi when it comes out on DVD. . .

Posted by: metaphysician at July 19, 2007 08:03 AM (lXszF)

21 It's not a waste of time. It's a decent series. But it doesn't really live up to the hype that was flying around last year. And there are better things out there (e.g. Shingu).

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 19, 2007 08:12 AM (+rSRq)

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