June 03, 2012

Strange engineering

Check this out: it's a highway interchange built over water. I don't think I've ever heard of such a thing before.

UPDATE: While I'm posting strange stuff, this weekend is the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Midway. Midway was one of the three turning point battles of WWII, along with Stalingrad and the Second Battle of El Alamein.

It's been said that before Midway the Japanese never had a defeat and after Midway they never had a victory. That isn't true. Coral Sea was a strategic defeat for Japan, even though American naval losses were greater. And there were a couple of battles in Iron Bottom Sound (e.g. the Battle of Savo Island) which were Japanese victories.

What Midway represents is the transition from the early Japanese juggernaut to a period of stalemate that lasted until the American shipbuilding program started pouring out warships in the last half of 1943. Midway stabilized the war and gave America time to rebuild and repair.

And that's more than enough reason to celebrate it, and honor the brave men (on both sides!) who fought there.

UPDATE: Since I'm linking to random Google Maps stuff, here's another one. That's Battery Russell in Fort Stevens, near Astoria Oregon. You can't really tell from the sky, but there's a pretty big underground bunker there, below and to the left of those two half-hexagons.

The half-hexagons were were two disappearing guns were mounted. They would be lowered to load them, then they would elevate to fire.

In June 1942, Battery Russell engaged in a gun duel with I-25. Not much of a duel; no one hit anything important. The worst destruction at Fort Stevens was the backstop at the baseball field. A pillbox took a near miss, and one Japanese round broke a buried wiring cable.

It was the only time in the war when a military installation in CONUS was attacked by the Axis.

A couple of times when I was a kid, we went camping at Fort Stevens and visited Battery Russell. It was fun for a little kid to run around and explore the place. (It would have been better if we'd had flashlights.)

UPDATE: Here are a couple of ground-level pictures. They match my memory, which is pretty amazing since I was last there maybe 50 years ago.

I can't find anything online that says that Battery Russell fired on I-25. I think my brother told me that. I wonder if he made it up? Or maybe my memory is wrong, after all.

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1 As you can imagine, there'll be a post about the 70th over at The Pond tomorrow (the date best associated with the Battle of Midway).

Posted by: Wonderduck at June 03, 2012 04:03 PM (V/OLv)

2 http://www.historynet.com/japanese-bomb-the-continental-u-s-west-coast.htm
I-25 later proceeded to a station off the American West Coast where, on the night of June 21, 1942, it shelled Fort Stevens, a coastal defense base in northwest Oregon. During this bombardment, I-25 fired 17 rounds, most of which exploded harmlessly on the shore.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at June 03, 2012 06:14 PM (5OBKC)

3 Indeed it seems like there was no return fire.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at June 03, 2012 06:23 PM (5OBKC)

4

The Coast Artillery batteries at Fort Stevens were under orders to hold fire and avoid giving away their positions, which worked.  It would not helped the Japanese very much even if the batteries had been authorized to return fire, though the I-25 might have learned the hard way why dueling it out with coast defenses who have more range and greater firepower is a bad idea, especially for a submarine.

C.T.

Posted by: cxt217 at June 03, 2012 06:41 PM (N+/w4)

5

I guess that makes sense. The batteries at Fort Russell were there to prevent the Japanese from crossing the Columbia bar and heading up river towards Portland and Vancouver.

Letting I-25 map them through reconnaisance-by-fire wouldn't have been a good thing, and I-25's shelling wasn't a significant threat in-and-of itself.

Not that the Columbia bar needed all that much defending. Those waters are known as "The Graveyard of the Pacific" because of treacherous currents and moving sand bars. Over the last hundred and fifty years, an astounding number of ships have been lost there.

More than 2000 vessels and 700 lives have been lost near the Columbia Bar alone.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at June 03, 2012 06:48 PM (+rSRq)

6 Sorry, "Fort Stevens", not "Fort Russell".

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at June 03, 2012 08:29 PM (+rSRq)

7 I don't know if this would count, as it's an interchange on pylons over a swamp rather than water, but take a look at the I-10/310 interchange:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.00352,-90.289507&spn=0.019549,0.031157&t=h&z=15

Posted by: pgfraering at June 04, 2012 10:29 AM (BY55s)

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