July 19, 2007

You gotta register

It looks like spammers have discovered me. So I'm afraid the time has come to require commenters to register. Sorry, but them's the breaks.

Registration enables you to have a blog here but doesn't require it. In that it's like places like LiveJournal.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in Site Stuff at 04:13 AM | Comments (21) | Add Comment
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1 Hmm.  I need to change the comment form so that it automatically comes up with a "You must register to comment." message if the user isn't already logged in.

Let's make sure that the feature at least works...

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 04:49 AM (PiXy!)

2 Okay, it does work (I was pretty sure I'd tested it previously) and it will block the spammers, but I need to clean up the messages a bit.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 04:51 AM (PiXy!)

3 I'm not sure I've logged in from this computer. Still, I think it's a good move on your part, Steven.

Update: Wasn't logged in, got "%s have been disabled." I'm sure Pixy will straighten that out!

Posted by: GreyDuck at July 19, 2007 06:00 AM (2Yvi7)

4 Yep.  I've fixed a couple of messages, and I'm making a change to the comment form so that it shows a message instead of the edit box if you can't comment.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 06:23 AM (PiXy!)

5 The registration process never sent the confirmation email it claimed was necessary, but it worked, so I can't complain.

-j

Posted by: J Greely at July 19, 2007 06:32 AM (2XtN5)

6 Yeah, I turned off the confirmation step because too many messages got lost in spam filters or whatever.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 07:14 AM (PiXy!)

7 Just testing to see if this works.  And frankly, I'm amazed the spammers took that long. . .

Posted by: metaphysician at July 19, 2007 07:58 AM (lXszF)

8 testing.....


Posted by: kbarrett at July 19, 2007 09:15 AM (jcvPd)

9 Methinks sending you to a page to log in might be more seamless.

It looks like it will let me put in my real blog URL ... good.


Posted by: kbarrett at July 19, 2007 09:17 AM (jcvPd)

10
Methinks sending you to a page to log in might be more seamless.
Or provide a login form in place of the comment form, and then bring up the comment form once you log in.  Yup.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 09:27 AM (PiXy!)

11 Oh well, I was looking for somewhere to store a little data anyhow. Maybe I'll even post something, someday.

Posted by: Tatterdemalian at July 19, 2007 10:00 AM (9WY0M)

12 Commenting to verify registration.

Posted by: gelasticjew at July 19, 2007 03:40 PM (//srd)

13 Let's see here, will it let me change my name from the registered name? And can I post my real blog? It looks like I can. Nice

Posted by: Mark at July 19, 2007 03:59 PM (2cMUJ)

14

Pixy: THAT's interesting.

I took a look in the administration comments page, and Mark's post is listed as coming from "Mark". Fact is, I don't have the slightest idea what login name he used, and it doesn't appear there's any way for me to find out.

I certainly don't want to do so for Mark, but supposing someone was annoying and I wanted to ban them. If they've changed their posting name, then how am I supposed to determine their login name in order to add them to the ban list?

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 19, 2007 04:23 PM (+rSRq)

15

Pixy: In the administration "Comments" page, the posting name column should change somewhat. Right now you've got it so that they link to the same things they link to here.

That should change to this: if a user is not logged in, the name should not be a link. If the user is logged in, the name should be a link to the mee.nu info page for the login that was used. So for the entry above, "Mark" links to Kaedrin in this thread, but in the administration "Comments" page, "Mark" should link to the real login ID he used.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 19, 2007 04:33 PM (+rSRq)

16 You do need to be able to see the link even if they're not logged in, because just the link might be spam.  But yeah, to manage users you kind of need to be able to identify the user...

I'll do some work on this over the next couple of days, but it will probably take a few iterations to reach something that has all the information needed but is still manageable.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 05:56 PM (PiXy!)

17 If they've linked to spam, I can see that in the comment thread and the sidebar. I don't need to see it in the administration frame.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 19, 2007 06:30 PM (+rSRq)

18 Definitely agree with comment 10.

Posted by: Jim Burdo at July 19, 2007 09:29 PM (1fWCM)

19 Steven - yeah... ish.  It's best if you can see all the information needed for moderating comments in the moderation screen itself.  But I won't hold up improvements while trying for perfection; I'll have an update soon.

Jim - I was just thinking about that some more, and the problem there is that the templates are completely user-controlled, and that opens things up for phishing scams.  So it's best if users are redirected to mee.nu itself for the login, then redirected back to the comment page.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at July 19, 2007 09:37 PM (PiXy!)

20 Testing...

Posted by: norm at July 22, 2007 10:41 AM (IN0ma)

21 Looks like you finally got it to work.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at July 22, 2007 10:54 AM (+rSRq)

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