June 18, 2008

Firefox 3?

Haven't used it myself, and don't plan to anytime soon. But the word is that the big new user-interface feature is modestly referred to as the "awesome bar", and either people love it with a love true and deep usually reserved for family members and kawaii anime chibis, or they hate it with a passion usually reserved for Osama bin Laden or kawaii anime chibis.

Ace has some help for those in the latter category.

(Reading between some lines, I think some of the complaint is that the "awesome bar" has implemented a bunch of new hot keys, some of which are being used by others in other places. I won't be too surprised to learn that FireFox 3 royally fucks up our comment and post editing applet, for instance.)

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1 The "awesome bar" is an update to the URL address bar autocomplete; so far as I'm aware it doesn't really have anything to do with hotkeys.  (After a week or so in the "hate" camp, I came to love it, but it does take some adjustment to habits from the old bar.)

I've been using Firefox 3 since the betas started, and haven't noticed any problems with the commenting applet, although I didn't even know there were hotkeys for it, much less use them.

Posted by: Aaron Nowack at June 18, 2008 01:27 PM (Glxmr)

2 As fast and as accurately as I type (about 100 WPM), I've always despised "autocomplete" in any tool, no matter what, and always sought to get rid of it if I could.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at June 18, 2008 02:00 PM (+rSRq)

3 It's also an autosuggest, which is worse. I'm against it simply because it chews up a lot of screen space and CPU on my little Asus EEE; Firefox 3 is already a pig, and stuff like this just makes it worse.

-j

Posted by: J Greely at June 18, 2008 02:05 PM (9Nz6c)

4 Hmmm... sounds craptastic. Guess I won't be "upgrading" any time soon.

Posted by: EvilOtto at June 18, 2008 02:24 PM (tYvh+)

5 Firefox 3 has two big advantages over 2: First, it doesn't leak memory like a big leaky thing, and second, Javascript runs much, much, much faster.

What Ace describes in that post is exactly how I have my Firefox 3 configured.

(And I've been running Firefox 3 on some of my computers since the early betas, to make sure things would work - and they do.  One beta screwed up some of the Minx 1.1 formatting, but that was a bug and they fixed it quickly.)

The big problem with the "awesome bar" is that while the old url bar followed simple and obvious rules to find what you were after, the new one is designed to learn what urls you associate with what shortcuts - but starts out completely useless.  After a few days of training it works quite well, but the first impression is that it is utterly broken.

Clearly the right thing to do would be for it to default to acting like the old url bar and learn from that starting point, but they didn't do that.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 18, 2008 02:57 PM (PiXy!)

6 For Minx 1.2, I'll be officially supporting Firefox 2 & 3, Opera 9.5+, Safari 3.1+, IE 7, and Flock (version to be determined).  All of these seem to correctly support the dynamic CSS I use, the MooTools library, and the latest version of the editor (InnovaEditor.NET).

In fact, since almost all other browsers are based on Gecko (the Firefox engine), Trident (the IE engine) or WebKit (the Safari engine), pretty much any browser should work for all Minx stuff.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 18, 2008 03:03 PM (PiXy!)

7 Bad things:  Bookmark handling is completely changed.  I used to park my bookmark at the root, and copy it left and right between computers.  The current behavior added a new step in my bookmark upkeep.

Most of the extension works (all-in-one mouse gesture need a bit tweaking, but works).  Google Bookmark synch doesn't work, and I'm looking for alternative.

Now for the good part.  It's much faster than previous version, and memory usage better.

Posted by: BigFire at June 18, 2008 03:11 PM (Kwn4z)

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