August 31, 2015

Grumble rassafratzin

Erin McClam, NBC News:

The Texas sheriff's deputy who was killed at a gas station was shot 15 times by a gunman who unloaded his entire clip, a prosecutor said Monday as the suspect appeared in court for the first time.

Dear Erin,

Repeat after me: magazine, not clip. magazine, not clip. magazine, not clip.


UPDATE: I don't think anyone has ever made a 14-round clip, and anyway you'd have to go all the way back to something like the Broomhandle Mauser to find a handgun which was loaded with a clip. (Which held 10 rounds, so maybe a 14-round clip isn't so far fetched.)

Anyway, lots of magazines are even larger than that, up to and including drum magazines carrying 100 rounds.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in Rants at 01:01 PM | Comments (9) | Add Comment
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1 My Calico sports 100 round magazines. Cool gun for plinking, bought it to annoy my Congressman back in Michigan: "Comrade" Bonior.

Posted by: Brett Bellmore at August 31, 2015 04:22 PM (L5yWw)

2 That must be heavy when it's fully loaded. It's a two-handed weapon and you'd need two hands.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 31, 2015 07:05 PM (+rSRq)

3 Surprisingly, it's not that bad. That' it's mostly aluminum and plastic helps. It's a carbine, and the magazine extends back over the top behind the grip, and balances the barrel. You can actually point shoot it one handed. 
Though it does come with a Kelly grip, as it was originally designed as a machine gun.
Trivia fact: It's was the Punisher's favorite gun in Marvel comics.

Posted by: Brett Bellmore at September 01, 2015 02:14 AM (L5yWw)


I was just thinking that 100 rounds of Parabellum weighs a lot even if the gun doesn't weigh anything at all.

That helical feed is clever. The Thompson drum magazine uses a spiral, and it never occurred to me that you could do the same with a helix.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at September 01, 2015 07:42 AM (+rSRq)

5 100 rounds of 9mm weighs just over 2.5 pounds.


Posted by: J Greely at September 01, 2015 08:33 AM (ZlYZd)

6 The newest clip-fed pistol that I know is Grendel P10. The manufacture of it ceased in 1991.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at September 01, 2015 01:37 PM (RqRa5)

7 I looked up some images of the Calico 950.  It looks like a great alternate-universe SF weapon.  Apparently it's shown up in Gunsmith Cats, Armitage III, and Vandred.
Have to wonder if that 100-round magazine is really practical.  The 50 round looks reasonable, but the 100-round version is huge.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 01, 2015 08:59 PM (PiXy!)

8 Russians took a helical magazine SMG Bizon into inventory in the 90s. The capacity was 64 rounds of 9x18 or 53 rounds of 9x19. Bizon was superseded by a similar SMG Vityaz with a conventional magazine.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at September 01, 2015 09:45 PM (RqRa5)

9 The 100 round magazine was a lot more practical for plinking before ammo prices went up. Kind of wish I'd gotten the .22 version, not the 9mm; Easier on the pocketbook to fill the magazine.
Although I can say from personal experience, that a 9mm Calico with Hellfire trigger installed, and a 100 round magazine full of Vector illuminated ammo, is the closest thing to a laser rifle you'll find in real life.
That latter did teach me not to use chunks of wood for plinking targets, by the way: It's rather scary to see a line of light that represents your bullet enter the chunk, encounter a knot, and exit at 90 degrees...

Posted by: Brett Bellmore at September 02, 2015 02:32 AM (L5yWw)

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