November 23, 2007

Japanese: de aru

I'm rewatching the Frieza saga from DBZ. (Yeah, I know. Off my case.) And I've started noticing de aru and de arou a lot.

Now Wilhelmina in Shana ends nearly one of her sentences with de arimasu, but that's a linguistic affectation, a level of eccentricity that borders on insanity. It doesn't mean anything other than "Wilhelmina is unfailingly polite and more than a bit weird."

The -masu form is an indication of politeness, of course. But apparently use of aru doesn't inherently indicate that, given that I'm hearing Vegeta and Piccolo using it, in the same sentence in which they use kisama. These are not characters known for courtly manners.

I looked it up in the dictionary, and it said that aru means "to be" or "to have". But it's pretty obvious that the real meaning and use of the verb isn't coming through in that definition. Aru isn't the copula, that's da. And "to possess" is sonawaru or sonaeru. So obviously I'm missing the fine points here.

What is the difference between saying desu and saying de aru?

UPDATE: They were never very concerned with continuity in this series. One of the more annoying things is the way that body parts come and go. When Piccolo and Goku fought against Raditz, Raditz took off one of Piccolo's arms. Later Piccolo regenerated it, but before he did that, there are a couple of scenes where it's back.

When Gohan, Vegeta, and Krillin were fighting against Frieza, Krillin used a kienzan and took off about half of Frieza's tail. After that, in some scenes it's back and in some scenes it's missing, seemingly at random.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in Japanese at 10:42 AM | Comments (5) | Add Comment
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1 "{verb}-te aru"  means the outcome of an intentional action. For example: "bangohanga tsukutte arimas / tsukutte aru" hints that the supper is there for you to eat (formal / casual forms). I don't know if this is grammatically correct, but it might be applicable to -desu in which case it turns into -de aru.

Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at November 23, 2007 06:54 PM (9imyF)

2 My textbook says there are three different types of predicate endings: desu-masu, da, and de aru forms. De aru is generally used in formal writings, such as essays, scholarly articles, newspaper articles, etc. Novels and diaries are usually written in this style, called the expository form. Aru is the existence verb for inanimate objects. So if you want to know if a store has something, you ask a clerk if it exists. In the expository style, de aru is the copula, taking the place of desu (which is a shortened form of de suru). It seems to be implying that a state exists and is being commented on.

Posted by: Jim Burdo at November 24, 2007 02:41 AM (4wde/)

3 Saying de aru might mean that the character considers himself above the situation and is expounding on it, like an observer.

Posted by: Jim Burdo at November 24, 2007 02:50 AM (4wde/)

4

Those continuity errors sound bad, but they're nothing compared to the old "SuperFriends" show.  There's one shot in an episode where Green Lantern clearly has three arms.  In another episode, the animators couldn't keep track of which heroes were captured, and which were coming to the rescue, as Green Lantern (again) is among the group that shows up to rescue...why, it's Green Lantern, in one shot.  (I don't remember who it was supposed to be; Aquaman, probably.)

It'd be one thing if these were blink-or-you-miss-them; alas, they're there long enough for the most distracted to see them.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 24, 2007 09:07 AM (pGYvN)

5 Then there was the infamous "six-fingered Spock" scene from the animated series.  And another one in which Scotty had a mustache.

Posted by: ubu at November 24, 2007 09:33 AM (Vv3CD)

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