May 17, 2009
The Christian Science Monitor just noticed gun bloggers:
The Internet presence of gun rights advocates actually began in the early 1990s, making them early adopters of the Web as a social and information tool. They took the lead on issues like concealed carry laws which have now spread to nearly 40 states, says Mr. Patrick, the University of Toledo professor.
“If you’d asked a policy expert in 1987, ‘Twenty-five years from now, are we going to have liberation of concealed carry laws or more control?’ they would have said that we’d have more restrictions — and they’d be wrong,” says Patrick. “The question is: How did they succeed? How do you succeed in the face of conventional wisdom, common sense and elite opinion?”
"Common sense"? What an arrogant prick. Who says that it's "common sense" that more gun control is better?
Besides which, he's being redundant. His "conventional wisdom" and "elite opinion" are the same thing, because it's clear he thinks "conventional wisdom" comes from the elite. It was never "conventional wisdom" among the masses that more gun control was a thing to be desired. (How could it be in a nation where at least half the voters own a firearm?)
How did gun rights advocates win? By being right, for one thing, but also by bucking elite opinion and making clear to the other plebes out there that it was all right to ignore "elite opinion" and to rely on the plebe's own common sense.
We don't have to do what our betters tell us to.
Posted by: toadold at May 17, 2009 03:09 PM (wG77R)
Posted by: Chipotle at May 17, 2009 03:26 PM (Dmikg)
Posted by: Keith Burby at May 17, 2009 03:54 PM (K27M0)
Most pro-gun supporters aren't "policy experts", because to be blunt, we don't feel there ought to be much policy. Aside from a couple of rough principles (it's okay to regulate fully-automatic weapons, explosives, military vehicles, and the like), there ain't much left. Much like it takes a "campaign finance expert" to square McCain-Feingold with the First Amendment, it takes a "gun policy expert" to square a possession ban with the 2nd.
The web helped and is still helping. Part of that is organizational, but a lot of it is related to the dissemination of information; it's easy to find high-quality legal opinions in favor of gun ownership (indeed, to the point where Volokh bloggers were cited in Heller!) Media gatekeepers may decide which side of an argument they want to present, but no longer can they prevent the other side from being heard too. That can be quite valuable when it comes to galvanizing support - now it's not just "well, this is what me and the boys think, but the news tells me it's not so."
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at May 17, 2009 03:55 PM (vGfoR)
I think one of the biggest effects of the web has been the dissolution of anti-gun peer pressure. When you can get online and find hundreds or thousands of other people who, like you, feel guns should not be banned and who, unlike you, are vocal about it and unashamed, it becomes easier to become vocal yourself and to stop being ashamed of what you think.
There has been a lot of attempted bandwagoning by lefties to try to pretend that "everyone who is anyone agrees on leftist positions". The web has shattered that, in this area as in many others.
Especially in this area. One way you can tell that the publicity war is being won by gun rights advocates is when you see people on fora where left-wing views predominate (e.g. Metafilter) proudly proclaim that they own guns, without becoming the target of social ostracism.
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 17, 2009 04:02 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Keith Burby at May 17, 2009 04:10 PM (K27M0)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 17, 2009 06:17 PM (+rSRq)
Posted by: Pete Zaitcev at May 17, 2009 07:18 PM (/ppBw)
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 17, 2009 07:40 PM (hlGBx)
Now if only you can find blogs being written by people who have both an interest in anime with conservative or libertarian interests (Or just anything that is not far left.) on other subjects...
(Not on the same thing, naturally, but it would be nice if the same people who talk about anime on one hand did not descend into reciting Democratic Underground talking points on other subjects, like 'Iraq war = evil!'.)
Posted by: cxt217 at May 18, 2009 12:29 PM (HawTW)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 18, 2009 12:38 PM (+rSRq)
The few are greatly appreciated by me. It can be depressing wondering if I am the only non-leftie anime fan in anime forums or at cons...
Posted by: cxt217 at May 18, 2009 01:04 PM (HawTW)
Posted by: Avatar_exADV at May 18, 2009 01:09 PM (pWQz4)
Still, there are a few more than Steven mentioned above. Andy James, the permanently semi-dead Astro, Brickmuppet just off the top of my head.
Posted by: Author at May 18, 2009 01:24 PM (/ppBw)
I am one of those that try to keep my American political opinions away from when I am watching anime (Though my American political opinions often sighs at the expressions of the Japanese - See the 2nd Patlabor movie for a classic example - though I do understand that anime is made first to cater to Japanese audiences.), and most of the time when I participate in anime interests, it would be hard to figure out what side of the political spectrum the participants belong to. I think most people do, and would also approve of NR's call for a politics-free zone when it comes to being entertained.
It is when such things are obviously intruding (The 'Voices for Peace' naivete from a while back, which involved a number of American VAs and was directed towards the US anime fandom - and which Pixy Misa so nicely took down the founder of the group in one shot after my mention of it.) that it can be annoying (At the intrusion, especially the ones that make it hard to ignore.) and depressing (At the number of people in the fandom that populate one side of the spectrum versus the other.). Few and far between, perhaps, but which often compensate for their rare appearance in other, less pleasant ways.
But I do agree you do not need to know or agree with someone's opinion on politics or whatever to agree that Evangalion is utter dreck. : )
Posted by: cxt217 at May 18, 2009 02:22 PM (HawTW)
I actually started writing at The Pond to stay out of the political arena. There are better writers with more insightful things to say in that field than I could ever hope to come up with... and the first to say "that doesn't stop you for writing about anime, Wonderduck" gets a punch in the beak.
Posted by: Wonderduck at May 18, 2009 06:45 PM (hlGBx)
Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 18, 2009 06:53 PM (+rSRq)
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