May 08, 2009


Ubu has seen the new Star Trek movie. He loved it.

UPDATE: RealLife goes to the movies.

UPDATE: Oh, brother. Jonah Goldberg really puts his foot in it. Man, is he gonna get the hate mail.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in General Entertainment at 07:37 AM | Comments (5) | Add Comment
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1 Ooooh.  If I were his employer, I'd be taking a "dead peasant" life insurance policy out right about now.   He REALLY doesn't like Nimoy, does he?

Posted by: ubu at May 08, 2009 12:53 PM (i7ZAU)


I was interested right up until I read "time travel."  Larry Niven once said that to write time travel SF, you didn't need to be a good writer, you just needed a good history text.

In any SF story it's a lousy crutch, but in the Star Trek 'verse it's a pimped out electric wheelchair.

Posted by: Tiberius at May 08, 2009 03:19 PM (TXmvK)

3 They're using time travel as an excuse for trashing canon. The universe has forked, and future movies will be on a separate branch, where events will take a new course.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 08, 2009 05:51 PM (+rSRq)

4 Honestly, I don't think its a bad idea, at least in theory.  Star Trek has accumulated a *lot* of cruft over the decades.  Resetting to the early TOS era, and starting from there again?  Has more potential than trying to work through the post-Voyager post-Enterprise mess.

Posted by: metaphysician at May 08, 2009 08:41 PM (WPSw+)

5 They didn't need to do the time travel wheeze to reboot the franchise.  BSG didn't use it and did just fine (at least until season 3 when it became obvious the writers had no idea where they wanted to go).  But even the initial time travel incident was tolerable.  It was the second time traveller that nearly sank the movie - the initial time travel incident having already forked the timeline it was completely unnecessary to play deus-ex-time-travel again.  Had events at the snowbound station played out without his assistance (the engineer having come up with the critical equation over the preceeding months of boredom instead of having it handed to him on a plate) then the movie and characters would have come across much more strongly.

Posted by: mparker762 at May 10, 2009 12:48 PM (zXDHc)

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