November 09, 2007

Epic fan service

Ubu Roi laments the lousy quality of the anime he's been watching from the fall season. Seems that the most interesting series are Moyashimon, which is about bacteria, and Goshuushou-sama Ninomiya-kun, which seems to be a fan-service vehicle under which the director is actually trying to tell a real story.

The comments thread is interesting; we've been talking about the quality of the story which might appear, using other series as standards.

The top rank, the ideal to which we all yearn, is Divergence Eve/Misaki Chronicles. That's a fan service show which has a story which is so good that nearly everyone who sees the series (the whole series) wishes there had been much less fan service, because it detracted from the story.

Next rank down would be Hand Maid May. It's a good story (though the logic doesn't survive the first step in the direction of the refrigerator, let along the entire trip) full of extremely fun and engaging characters, and most of the fan service serves the plot.

Below that we have Hanaukyo Maid Team La Verite. There's a good story, about decent characters, but it's not top bracket and the fan service is largely gratuitous and unnecessary to the story.

Next step down on our scale, we have Najica Blitz Tactics. The fan service is the point of the show, and there is so much of it, on screen so incessantly, that watching the show is really a surreal experience. That said, there is genuinely a good story being told in it, with a rather surprising ending.

Then there's Popotan. It's largely stuck with a certain role, and certain character designs, because it's "adapted" from an erogame in which the object for the player is to seduce everything on two legs that's female. If you get 'em all, including the two who are in grade school, you win. The anime pretty much amputated the original story and built an entirely new one using most of the original characters, but omitted the one which was the player avatar. And though there's no seduction going on, there is a non-trivial lolicon factor to the graphics, enough so that I don't recommend the series.

Which is a shame, because the new story they came up with is surprisingly good. If only they had resisted the urge to incororporate all the explicit lolicon pandering, it could have rated up just below HMM on this scale. As it is, it's another example like DE/MC of a story seriously marred by excessive and gratuitous fan service.

We're starting to get down into the real dregs here, where we can start pointing to things like "Girls Bravo" and "Eiken" but if we're comparing to those kinds of examples then it means the show is a real trainwreck.

Ubu Roi says that he has no hope that GSNK will rank up with DE/MC, but thinks that if we're all lucky it might reach the level of HMTLV. If so, it'll be worth getting once it comes out in R1. In fact, it might be even if it only rises to the level of NBT.

UDATE: I just noticed a screencap from Grenadier in the top rotation and realized that I should have included it in the scale. The story is genial but not really hugely engaging, the fan service is nearly constant, and it rates below HMTLV but above NBT.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in General Anime at 02:44 PM | Comments (7) | Add Comment
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1 The more I look at it, the more it looks like the perfect field for a 2-axis spread. Plot: from dreck to epic, and Fanservice: from burqa to boobies.

Posted by: Will at November 09, 2007 04:10 PM (E3UGR)

2 Well, two things.  First, I don't know that GSNK is actually trying to tell a real story, let alone a good story.  I was just stunned that they were trying to tell one at all.  They threw in two major twists at the end that raise all kind of possibilities, but I don't know yet.  (They also pulled a head-fake at the end of the prior episode, although I kind of expected it to be such).   The next fansub episode should make it out this weekend, and I'll see.  I'm actually figuring on it coming in about the Girls Bravo level.  There's just too much gratuitous "sexed-up humor" that doesn't make logical sense.  Unless they've pulled the greatest head-fake in history, that is.  (What l is Ryoko's game?)

The second thing is that I was afraid of trying to list too many fanservice-with-a plot series, because we'd be in danger of just trying to create a "best-to-worst" as opposed to a "category" list. More than about six, maybe five, and we're slipping into that territory.  So I think the 8-series list you left in my comments needs to be cut down some.  Wait, this is blogging, nobody says we have to do it my way... which is a good thing.

Unfortunately, my anime experience is much more limited than yours; I've not seen Popotan, Girls Bravo, or Eiken, so I tend to lump them together from t he descriptions I've seen.  I also ding HMM a little harder for all the work you and J.Greely had to do to invent a backstory, so everything made sense.

I haven't seen it or Grenedier either, FWIW.  In fact, I just realized, I've only seen three series on that list at all. Ok, time to stop talking like I know anything.....excuse me, I think I need to go floss my lawnmower.


Posted by: ubu at November 09, 2007 04:39 PM (RBBnp)

3 Will, so the real question is, what's the correlation between fan service and plot quality? Of course there's no truly objective way to measure that, but we should be able to find something, right?

One would expect a slight negative quantity, but maybe not strong enough of a correlation to be significant - there's a lot of shows on the "good" and "suck" ends of the axis with varying levels of fan service. Hm... Darn, now I want to break out a statistical analysis program. (Or maybe I just don't want to script tonight?)

Posted by: Avatar_exADV at November 09, 2007 05:12 PM (LMDdY)

4

I think I can prove that there isn't any. Certainly there isn't any inverse relationship between story and fan service. Fact is, the fan service in Divergence Eve was really good.

The fan service in Eiken was horrifying. The fan service in Ikki Tousen was very good. Both of them had miserably stupid stories.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 09, 2007 05:18 PM (+rSRq)

5 Well there are exceptions, but I kind of expect to see something like the main-sequence of the H-R diagram, with stuff like Eiken and Divergence Eve occupying the outlying Red Dwarf and Supergiant regions.

Posted by: Will at November 09, 2007 08:18 PM (E3UGR)

6 ...respectively.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at November 09, 2007 08:27 PM (+rSRq)

7 Yes. Very.

Posted by: Will at November 09, 2007 08:56 PM (E3UGR)

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