December 14, 2013

IE11 -- sucks

I upgraded to IE11 when it hit Windows Update, and I wish I hadn't. My biggest complaint is that a lot of the time it is very slow loading pages, for no obvious reason.

My home page is on my local server, and in every previous version of IE, and in Firefox, it loads quite rapidly. There's no reason why it shouldn't.

But maybe three quarters of the time when I start IE11 it takes as much as 30 seconds for the page to show up. It makes me think that IE11 is trying to access something else and timing out before loading normally.

This also happens sometimes when I am already running and access a new page, or when I open a new tab. There's really no obvious reason for it. I'm thinking of backing it out again, but I'm not sure that's possible.

If you haven't already installed IE11, I recommend that you wait.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in Computers at 11:19 AM | Comments (18) | Add Comment
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1 It's probably trying to mirror your entire browser session onto an NSA server, and hitting a bottleneck there...

Posted by: Siergen at December 14, 2013 02:01 PM (c2+vA)

2 Unfortunately, the only way for me to get rid of it is to retreat to a set point from November 26, and I really don't want to go back that far. So I'll have to put up with it and hope they figure out the problem and fix it.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 14, 2013 02:43 PM (+rSRq)

3 Interesting that it didn't create a restore point before installing itself.  I suppose we could be cynical and assume that's deliberate because they don't WANT us going back.

Posted by: RickC at December 14, 2013 06:17 PM (swpgw)

4 It did create a restore point, back on November 26 when I installed it. But I don't feel comfortable retreating that far.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 14, 2013 07:22 PM (+rSRq)

5 Ah.  I assumed that it didn't make one for some reason and that you would have had to go back further.

Posted by: RickC at December 14, 2013 09:24 PM (swpgw)

6 There should be some way to figure out if it's trying to load something up (A default home page that you've got blocked).  You could even employ a network tool like Wireshark to see what it's doing.

Posted by: Mauser at December 15, 2013 12:26 AM (TJ7ih)

7 There is. I'm using an HTTP sniffer and trying to catch the event.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 15, 2013 06:07 AM (+rSRq)


And I just did capture it.

There was a long pause before IE11 sent out its first request, and then my server responded rapidly. I have no idea what IE11 was doing.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 15, 2013 08:50 AM (+rSRq)

9 Just now, I was able to just uninstall the IE11 update and get the previous version back.

As for the problem, maybe corruption in the anti-phishing database, or IE failing to resolve hostnames correctly? I see a lot of stuff on forums about IE11 slowdowns, and they seem to fall into two major camps: disable/update all add-ons, or reset explorer. Plus some folks who've already tried both and had no luck, and others who successfully reverted to previous versions.


Posted by: J Greely at December 15, 2013 10:50 AM (+cEg2)

10 Where did you find the "uninstall" option? It doesn't show up for me in the "installed programs" and in the Windows Update applet there's no such choice.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 15, 2013 10:55 AM (+rSRq)

11 On the Windows Update control panel, bottom left, "Installed Updates". It was right near the top of the list along with all the security patches I've gotten recently. (Win7 64-bit)


Posted by: J Greely at December 15, 2013 11:00 AM (+cEg2)


OK, that worked, and I'm back to IE10.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 15, 2013 11:39 AM (+rSRq)


You have to go to Windows Update again after that, to install a big IE10 update.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 15, 2013 11:54 AM (+rSRq)

14 In my experience, a consistent 30 second delay means a DNS lookup failure.  But that doesn't tell you what or why.  And if you have to go to extremes to make it work, you're better off just reverting to IE10 anyway.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 15, 2013 09:38 PM (PiXy!)

15 A DNS lookup fail doesn't make any sense because "" (the base for my home page) is in my "hosts" file.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at December 16, 2013 05:42 AM (+rSRq)

16 No, I think it does make "sense".  This is IE we're talking about.  Routing a connection through China 3 times for no apparent reason will make sense to certain versions.

Posted by: sqa at December 16, 2013 06:57 AM (BHEa5)

17 What I suspect it's doing is looking for something else entirely - checking on a plugin, maybe - before it even begins loading the web page, and that's what's failing.  But since it helpfully also fails to tell you what it's doing or what the problem is, you can't do anything to fix it.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at December 16, 2013 07:16 AM (PiXy!)

18 Well, you can check on the load impact or whatever you call it of plugins, but that's about it.  I find that helps improve startup time, but works best for me is simply changing the start page to about:blank; any other page I use as the start page seems to take a really long time to load, and the stop button doesn't really work for several seconds.

Posted by: RickC at December 16, 2013 12:55 PM (A9FNw)

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