May 28, 2015

Dodging bullets

I (deliberately) bought my current computer before Win8 came out, because I was sure it was going to be a trainwreck and I didn't want anything to do with it.

And I was right, and I'm glad I did.

My phone came out two and a half years ago, but we were brought up to the edge (Android 4.4.2) last Fall. I suspect we won't get any more updates for my model -- and again, I think I'm glad.

Google has gone nuts with the next version of Android. And I'm glad I won't be a part of it.

Thanks, but no thanks!

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in Computers at 05:33 PM | Comments (8) | Add Comment
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1 This "trainwreck" you speak of... have you actually used W8, or are you just repeating what the techie websites said? 

Because, to be honest, I've had zero problems with W8 at all.  It took me about 10 minutes to adjust to the ways it's different from W7. 

But there's no start button.

As I said, it took me about 10 minutes to adjust.

Posted by: Wonderduck at May 28, 2015 07:39 PM (jGQR+)


I don't get out much any more, and I haven't had any opportunity to see Win8 in person. So no, it's based on what I've read.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at May 28, 2015 07:45 PM (+rSRq)

3 Windows 8 with Start8 works okay.  The core of the operating system is solid - better than Windows 7 - it's just some dumb things Microsoft did to the UI and refused to undo.  Start8 fixes most of those.

Stock Windows 8 is pretty bad, though.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at May 29, 2015 03:25 AM (PiXy!)

4 Yeah, my wife has a laptop with stock Windows 8, and, while it hasn't crashed or anything like that, I hate the interface. I'll look into this Start8 for her.
People, laptops and desktop computers Are Not Phones. Stop trying to make them look like phones!
And don't get me started on Google's home page...

Posted by: Brett Bellmore at May 29, 2015 04:03 AM (L5yWw)

5 I was forced into Win 8.1 because we bought a couple of Surface Pros for work, and I ended up using Clam Shell to bring back the start button because 1) it's free; 2) I hate paying for things to restore basic functions to Microsoft products.  They all are configured to boot directly to the desktop instead of Metro, and now they're great.

The only other thing I didn't like was the cryptic error 850 message you get when you first set up a VPN connection in Win 8.  It only takes a quick change in the adapter settings to fix, but in these days where Windows wants to hide every system option from the user for their own good, they should make a two step guide in help so you don't have to google how to fix it.

Isn't Microsoft planning to bring back the Start button in Win 10?

Posted by: wahsatchmo at May 29, 2015 07:00 AM (F0wWF)

6 With Start8, Windows 8 has been pretty awesome for me.  In fact, along with all the bullhockey going on with Android, I was considering getting a Windows-based phone the next time I upgrade.  The last Android update did a lot of things that made my phone harder to use; like requiring the phone to check online before showing me my contacts.  And since I live in an area with really spotty data connection, sometimes I can't make calls (if I don't know the number from memory) if the phone can't "phone home" first.

Posted by: Ben at May 29, 2015 07:20 AM (DRaH+)

7 Windows 8.1 works great on a Surface Pro, since that's the environment it was designed for. It sucks on a non-touchscreen device until you discover the hidden right-click menu in the lower-left corner, and pretty much turns into Windows 7 if you install a start-button replacement. The user experience was an unbelievable heads-must-roll mistake at launch, but the OS itself is a solid improvement.

If MS delivers on the promise that Win10 will 1) work on everything that runs Vista/7/8,  2) be a free upgrade for a year to get everyone onto the same platform, and 3) have a fully-functional desktop/laptop UI, they'll be able to recover from this mess.


Posted by: J Greely at May 29, 2015 09:08 AM (ZlYZd)

8 Going over the Google announcements, they have one new feature that I've been asking for for years: With Android M you can import an SD card so it becomes a seamless part of the device's storage.

Of course, if you remove an imported card, your apps and data disappear with it, but I've never removed the SD card from my phone

Posted by: Pixy Misa at June 01, 2015 09:33 PM (PiXy!)

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