August 07, 2015

Nanoha Vivid -- Why is Nove so angry?

I have raws of the manga up through chapter 72. The translations only go to chapter 52 (which just came out). Anyway, something happens in chapter 62 (in volume 12) about which I am intensely curious, and I need some help from someone who can read Japanese.

Here's the background:

Later, the first time Nove is with Vivio and Einhart isn't around, Nove chews her out. It's as angry as we ever see Nove get. What I want to know is what Nove is so angry about. Here are the six pages in which this happens:

Page 144, 145, 146, 147, 148, 149, 150, 151

Could someone who can read it tell me what Nove is saying?

UPDATE:

UPDATE:

UPDATE: Just to make clear: I'm not begging for a literal translation; just a summary, two or three sentences, would be fine.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste in General Anime at 10:19 PM | Comments (10) | Add Comment
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1

No one, eh?

Nobody likes me, everybody hates me, I think I'll go eat worms...

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 09, 2015 11:41 AM (+rSRq)

2 My Japanese isn't strong enough to help really.

Posted by: sqa at August 09, 2015 10:27 PM (nu5ZK)

3 I can tell you that it starts out as a berating for the fight being either unreasonable" or "absurd", but I can't really follow much of it after that.
Once "penitence" shows up, I'm just lost.

Posted by: sqa at August 09, 2015 10:43 PM (nu5ZK)

4

"Criticizing her for overdoing it" makes sense.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 10, 2015 10:21 AM (+rSRq)

5 And... this is one of the purest examples of "befriending" to be found in the entire canon.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 10, 2015 10:23 AM (+rSRq)

6 Will give it a shot; translation's loose. Out of practice.
Sure looks like a pep-talk to me.
144: N: your fight today was unreasonable. It's not fine just because you won. Where the areas you should reflect on end, I don't even know. 
V: Even though it was a sparring bell win, it was sort of a penance for relying on Defender.
145: N: Did (I?) teach you to try and take an attack that way? Still more, (one) from a higher ranked 'hard hitter' opponent? For such an engagement from straight on, what kind of penance did I teach? Eh?
V: That... what you taught (me), I didn't think deeply about it.
?: Umm, Coach... that's about enough scolding...
N: Shut up, kiddy! Y'all listen!
146: N: I taught you techniques for use in competition matches. What crowns those, the foundations of my style (store?) is to adopt your own spring-light-game (springtime technique?). From here on, Einhart too.
V: Yes!
N: For you, who (took) what I taught and ripped up the right teachings! Melee-hitting-school's debut!
147: N: Speed! Sense! Anti-nerve-attacks! With techniques, make sport of your opponents power and toughness!
148:  (become a) 'Hit without being hit' counter-hitter... that is what best suits your nature, what is closest to your dream.
V: Yes!
149: N: Even though you won with things you've learned and memorized and a wrongly reckless fighting style, that kind of victory doesn't lead to a tomorrow. You, with your body and your weakness, wanting the short term victory, if you continue with that kind of thing... well, at best, you'll have a breakdown in middle-school that will be the end of your life as a player. That's probably painful, (hearing) that. 
V: Yes...
150: N: Even so, I watched in silence, considering your and Einhart's special circumstances. After now, I won't permit it, understand?
V: Y - yes!
V: Without Coach's permission, I won't fight today's way again!
N: Really?
V: Yes!
151: N: Y'all fine?
?: Yes!
N: Good! Then, this matter ends here. From tomorrow, compete as a reborn four-man team.
V: Yes!

Posted by: HC at August 11, 2015 03:44 PM (84+yM)

7

 

Thank you very much. To explain a few things, "Sacred Defender" is a technique that Vivio learned to use with her magical device, which is called "Sacred Heart" or "Chris". (It's that floating bunny.)

Sacred Defender is effectively magical armor. It's something she developed a long time ago but when she's in her Sankt Kaiser mode it apparently is particularly strong. In her fight with Einhart, several times Einhart landed powerful blows without Vivio blocking them, and they bounced doing no damage. One of the things Nove appears to be angry about is that Vivio was relying on that for defense instead of more traditional blocking moves.

The fighting style that Nove has been teaching Vivio usually gets translated as "Counter-hitter". She blocks and then ripostes, often doing great damage. But during her fight with Einhart she wasn't doing that because she was relying on Sacred Defender to protect her.

Rio (the one with dark hair) uses her family's style called "Fist of the Spring Sunlight" which has unusual characteristics. The third loli is Corona and her thing is called "Meist Arts" which allows her to create and operate a giant golem made of stone. Plus other capabilities.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 11, 2015 04:35 PM (+rSRq)

8 Thanks. That makes more sense - the bit about crowning things makes enormously more sense with Corona as a name instead of a loanword.
146: N: I taught you techniques for use in competition matches. For those, Corona does Meist Arts' foundation, and Rio brings out her Fist of the of the Spring Sunlight.
Still very loose, but good to stretch that side of things for a change.
Also clarifies that the penance for relying so thoroughly (頼り !きり!) on Defender is in the future, rather than the fight about which she's being scolded.  

Posted by: HC at August 11, 2015 06:38 PM (84+yM)

9 "Counter-hitter"

Counter-strike?  Counter-punch?

Posted by: Wonderduck at August 14, 2015 07:05 PM (jGQR+)

10 Sorry, but they actually use the English words "counter hitter". For instance in episode 8, time offset 14:06.

Posted by: Steven Den Beste at August 14, 2015 07:53 PM (+rSRq)

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